Before anyone tries to respond with it. It is https://donorbox.org/ladybird
For advertising, Firefox now collects user data by default
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#32The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
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#33So how do we turn it off? Found it. Go to settings, type privacy into the search box. The last item under "Firefox Data Collection and Use" is a check box labelled "Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement". It was already unchecked on mine when I looked just now.
on firefox mobile: open chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml, set general.aboutConfig.enable to true open about:config, set dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled to false
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#34I can't wait for Ladybird to get good, in a decade realistically, swimming against a massive current of Google pushing its unstandardised nonsense on Chrome, and web developers jumping on the bandwagon, making web standards more and more complex by the day so no one ever is able to catch up.
You can add to the dead internet theory the fact that the Web is now maliciously impossible to recreate and access from scratch if you are unable to compete with the billions Google spend to maintain their hegemony. Heck, even Microsoft found it was more efficient to join Google rather than to try and direct what they laughably call "an open standard." There is more competition to build reusable space rockets than in web browsers.
A sad day, and sadder days await us. Shame of Mozilla, and on the CTO trying to sell this feature as a good thing.
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#35The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
I think this line is very important: > First, in the absence of alternatives, there are enormous economic incentives for advertisers to try to bypass these countermeasures, leading to a perpetual arms race that we may not win. It's very likely that this arms race will lead to DRM in web publications and video feeds (which Google is already experimenting with).
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#37So where can I donate to Ladybird browser development? Before anyone tries to respond with it. It is https://donorbox.org/ladybird
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#38The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
> we consider modal consent dialogs to be a user-hostile distraction from better defaults, and do not believe such an experience would have been an improvement here.
You know what's user-hostile? Doing things without the user's knowledge or consent. The new tab page of Firefox after an update often advertises features of the release Mozilla sees important (their VPN offering, Firefox on mobile, etc.). This time the new tab page told me nothing about this change. Communicating it to me was "free" and they still actively refused to do it.
"Doing something" about surveillance starts with transparency but if Mozilla's leadership doesn't see this as important they have no place leading such a company. Mozilla doesn't seem to wrap its head around the fact that their users use Firefox because they don't want the same kind of shady tactics Google or Microsoft keep pulling, they don't want their browser control to be handed over to some guy in a board room who needs a PR team to give a lengthy non-answer to the problem.
I see a lot of words spent on why they came up with this technology but barely a mention about the biggest issue here especially from a company that presents itself as a champion of user rights: they pushed the change in the dead of night and took an actively hostile decision in the users' names by enabling a clearly controversial setting without any warning or communication.
> we should have communicated more on this one
This kind of PR speak for "we actively kept it hidden" is the best way to alienate the users who investigated and chose this browser for a reason.
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#39The CTO of Mozilla just posted on /r/firefox about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...
If you have telemetry disabled, this feature is also disabled, even though that isn't represented in the UI and looks like it's turned on.
It's not good that it exists and is on by default, but if you have already opted out of telemetry previously, you're opted out of this too.
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#40Opera? Other recommendations?