I have always wondered how "hosting" sites deal with malicious actors, like sharing of copywritten stuff (like movies), xxx stuff or worse (cp). Is there content moderation at the backend of Horizon?
For privacy reasons, there's no scanning. I rely on user reports to determine whether to take content down.
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
For privacy reasons, there's no scanning. I rely on user reports to determine whether to take content down.
This is a legally...risky strategy. You built a cool thing but unfortunately when you put cool things online they get used for the worst possible purposes.
If any content is uploaded that violates the terms of service and is reported, they will be deleted as soon as possible, and that user will almost certainly be permanently banned.
The terms of service also limits my liability.
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#73I have always wondered how "hosting" sites deal with malicious actors, like sharing of copywritten stuff (like movies), xxx stuff or worse (cp). Is there content moderation at the backend of Horizon?
For privacy reasons, there's no scanning. I rely on user reports to determine whether to take content down.
Some stuff is hard to unsee.
Edit: I wonder if a local LLM (to help with privacy concerns) would be a good option or not to at least identify anything obviously bad. Wish I had more concrete suggestions.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
For privacy reasons, there's no scanning. I rely on user reports to determine whether to take content down.
I have some experience helping previous jobs block bandwidth abuse from user uploaded content. That lead to inadvertently finding some pretty bad content. I would figure out some way to have someone else review the content or at least some kind of automated scanner you can use to pre-check the reported content before reviewing it yourself. Some stuff is hard to unsee. Edit: I wonder if a local LLM (to help with priva…
Edit: A local model could work, but that can be quite compute intensive and therefore expensive.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have some experience helping previous jobs block bandwidth abuse from user uploaded content. That lead to inadvertently finding some pretty bad content. I would figure out some way to have someone else review the content or at least some kind of automated scanner you can use to pre-check the reported content before reviewing it yourself. Some stuff is hard to unsee. Edit: I wonder if a local LLM (to help with priva…
You absolutely have a point. But for me, I'm not sure how to balance privacy and safety. Is my service really private at all if I'm handing off user files to a third party to do who knows what to scan for bad content, and potentially risk users through false positives? Edit: A local model could work, but that can be quite compute intensive and therefore expensive.
So I would try asking around or thinking of how best to handle the specific reported cases without exposing yourself too directly.
[0]: I am not a lawyer
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#76Looks great, and clearly a lot of time and thought invested. Not news to you, I'm sure, but these sites typically only last for a while. Because nobody has really hit on a way to subsidize a reasonable free plan enough to pay for the bandwidth it collectively consumes, and to implement enough spam protection. Especially once it hits a certain adoption curve. So they either die or find a way to push ads, like imgur di…
Exactly; I still remember reading the imgur announcement post on reddit which had all the same descriptions. They were ad free and they were aiming to be great forever. Now though they're the "big bad". https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7zlyd/comment/c...
why does everybody here think that imgur is a failure in light of OP's stated goals? His stated goals are the same as imgur's stated goals. The imgur outcome is the stated goal of most of the people here.
Think a little bit more inside the box.
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Re: 7 I think in the end all the videos did upload successfully, but the client UI stopped reporting progress at some point. A couple more suggestions: - Would like a select-all button instead of clicking videos 1 by 1 - An option to switch from grid view to list view could be useful - Home UI shows 25 items per page but the grid has 3 columns so the last row is never full - which makes it seem like there are no furt…
I've added a new redundant check that will ensure all chunks are uploaded before marking the large upload as finished. Hopefully this resolves the issue you were facing. If not, please do send me an email at the address listed at https://horizon.pics/help . As for those files that failed but still show up in the dashboard, it means they're stored incomplete, and as such, will be automatically purged in 24 hours. I wi…
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#78Just a quick note. That you have pricing up front is such a big thing. Places like Imgur and photobucket before it were out to be exploited merely for their free bandwidth. There is a clear means of funding this and that instills confidence. One other note, I also am a lot more likely to jump onto a service if there is an easy escape plan. While you don't want to loose customers, having an easy out allows people to e…
Yep! Having limits and sustainable pricing was at the top of mind prior to launch - didn't want to dig myself into a hole. For exports, there are currently 3 export options: - file download URLs (encrypted content is undecryptable by Horizon, therefore will not be downloadable without the correct key, which is not stored by Horizon) - all your short links - all your paste content (encrypted content is undecryptable b…
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#80Do you do all the design/UI/UX yourself?