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Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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> Speech to text doesn't require AI. *grumpy old man shakes fist at ever-changing meaning of words* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://www.kurzweiltech.com/kai.html

They didn't call it AI previously. Are we redefining STT as AI?

> They didn't call it AI previously.

"In this excerpt from The Age of Spiritual Machines (Viking, 1999), Ray Kurzweil describes his work in speech recognition." - previous link

"The ‘80s saw speech recognition vocabulary go from a few hundred words to several thousand words. One of the breakthroughs came from a statistical method known as the “Hidden Markov Model (HMM)”. Instead of just using words and looking for sound patterns, the HMM estimated the probability of the unknown sounds actually being words." - https://sonix.ai/history-of-speech-recognition

"Voice Recognition", title of page 82, "Who's who in Artificial Intelligence: The AI Guide to People, Products, Companies, Resources, Schools and Jobs" - By Alan Kernoff, 1986

> Are we redefining STT as AI?

The opposite, you're redefining it as not AI.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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I miss really small phones. My favourite two small iPhones were the small-by-contemporary-standards iPhone 5S and SE. My favourite phone ever, small or large, was the Sony Xperia Mini Pro (the second of the Xperia Mini devices, with the slide out keyboard). An absolutely amazingly useful, chunky little device with a super keyboard, an unusually good camera for the time, and an actual shutter button for it. I'd have u…

I second the Sony Xperia Mini Pro as the best phone ever. I replaced mine enough times that my jeans pockets all had silhouettes worn into them.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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For me personally, I learned to avoid every smartphone vendor that: 1) doesn't share the sources of their Android OEM images online 2) isn't compatible with LineageOS. 3) doesn't have replaceable batteries. If either of those apply, it's just a waste of money that can be avoided, regardless of build quality. In the case of the Jelly devices, they have a replaceable battery, but it's still just software waste. Usually…

> isn't compatible with LineageOS I gave up on rugged phones for this, I got a pixel 5 and a rhinoshield, which has survived over a year so far, although I don't just throw it around like I could with the bv7000. that phone was the smartphone equivalent of an old Nokia 3310.

The Moto Z2 Force is great but it does seem as if it is slowly losing some support. I've dropped mine from a bike going 30+mph multiple times and have dropped it on the concrete (no case) more times than I can count.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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> iPhone transcribes what they're saying in real time and I can decide to pick up. How does this work? Is it a carrier feature? On my iPhone, if it goes to voicemail the call is done and the display goes to sleep. I have to go looking for the message in the voicemail to interact with it. I’m in France and have never seen this on the two carriers I’ve used (Bouygues and Free).

It's US only.

It's not. I'm not in US, nor have any connection to it.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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This is very prevalent in the expat community where I have many friends. I hate it. At least the current AI developments made it possible for messenger apps to transcribe the messages to text (and back, though I haven't seen that feature yet) - we both get what's best for us. And same with voice calls and voicemail - I mostly don't accept calls and let them all go to voicemail. iPhone transcribes what they're saying…

> iPhone transcribes what they're saying in real time and I can decide to pick up. How does this work? Is it a carrier feature? On my iPhone, if it goes to voicemail the call is done and the display goes to sleep. I have to go looking for the message in the voicemail to interact with it. I’m in France and have never seen this on the two carriers I’ve used (Bouygues and Free).

It recently started to work on my Vodafone plan. Never even had a voicemail before that. Probably not a carrier-specific feature, at least not the transcription - though passing the voicemail audio data on probably requires some carrier-side support. I don't think it's some backhand deal though, I think it's using some unusual GSM/LTE/5G capability.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Who cares about thickness other than tech enthusiasts? There are phones that are so thin, they feel uncomfortable while in your hand.

Those of us who carry it in the front pocket.

I do. But to be honest, some phones are so thin that I fear I'll accidentally break them when sitting down. I'd rather take a thicker but smaller phone because of that.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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> isn't compatible with LineageOS I gave up on rugged phones for this, I got a pixel 5 and a rhinoshield, which has survived over a year so far, although I don't just throw it around like I could with the bv7000. that phone was the smartphone equivalent of an old Nokia 3310.

The Moto Z2 Force is great but it does seem as if it is slowly losing some support. I've dropped mine from a bike going 30+mph multiple times and have dropped it on the concrete (no case) more times than I can count.

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Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Yeah roughly, although it's estimated to be a lot thicker, greater than 1.5 cms by some sources.

The jelly pro/star is very thick, but I suspect the jelly max will be much thinner as there's more screen space to put a bigger battery behind

Dimensions just released, it's going to be 16.3mm thick
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