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Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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I wrote my own software. Turns out LLMs are still training on my data. What’s the next step?

Host it on a private git instance.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

GrapheneOS helps here by having no real backup solution at all. Google account is entirely optional

Pixels have first class support

You can also disable Network access to any app

(It's a buggy ride though and requires reading a lot of docs and forum posts)

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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> there will be a real shift back on prem with software Not while we’re production constrained on the bleeding edge of GPUs.

… and that situation will persist until other vendors release consumer GPUs with significant VRAM. Nvidia craftily hamstrings the top consumer GPUs by restricting VRAM to 24GB. To get a bit more costs 3-5x. Only competition will fix this.

Even then NVIDIA has a pretty significant technology moat because most of the tools are built around and deeply integrate CUDA so moving off NVIDIA is a costly rewrite.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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I just want to add that gmail has a very sneaky 'add to drive' button that is way too easy to click when working with email attachments. How long til gmail attachments get uploaded into drive by default through some obscure update that toggles everything to 'yes'?

What difference does it make? They’re both on Google servers and even ACLed the same user account. Gmail isn’t exactly a privacy preserving email provider.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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All AI should be opt-in, which includes both training and scanning. You should have to check a box that says "I would like to use AI features", and the accompanying text should be crystal clear what that means. This should be mandatory, enforced, and come with strict fines for companies that do not comply.

AI is becoming the new Social Media in that users are NOT the customer they are the product. Instead of generating data for a Social Media company to use to sell ads to companies you are generating data to train their AI, in exchange you get to use their service for free.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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post #28

Every single week I have to refuse enabling back up for my pictures on my Google pixel. I refuse it today, next week I open the app and the UI shows the back up option enabled with a button "continue using the app with back up". Somebody took the time to talk down my comment about this being a strategy to give their AI more training data. I continue believing that if they have your data they will use it.

GrapheneOS helps here by having no real backup solution at all. Google account is entirely optional Pixels have first class support You can also disable Network access to any app (It's a buggy ride though and requires reading a lot of docs and forum posts)

How is it buggy? Are you using the Google Play Store?

I've been using GrapheneOS for years (Pixel 3 through 7), with only open source add-on apps and no Google Play Store, and it's been pretty solid. (Other than my carrier seeming to hate the 6a hardware or model specifically.)

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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This goes for every SaaS / cloud native company I think there will be a real shift back on prem with software delivered traditionally due to increased in shit like this (and also due to cost)

> there will be a real shift back on prem with software Not while we’re production constrained on the bleeding edge of GPUs.

How many SaaS / Cloud Native companies are really GPU constrained? The overwhelming majority of SaaS is a relatively trivial CRUD web-app interfacing with a database, performing some niche business automation, all of which would fit comfortably on a couple of physical servers.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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I wrote my own software. Turns out LLMs are still training on my data. What’s the next step?

Poison the well with AI SEO? There must the equivalent to parrots for NN that can be embedded in documents.

Re: Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

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Meta commentary but still relevant I think: The author first refers to his source as Kevin Bankston in the article's subtitle. This is also the name shown in the embedded tweet. But the following two references call him Kevin _Bankster_ (which seems like an amusing portmanteau of banker and gangster I guess). Is the author not proofreading his own copy? Are there no editors? If the author can't even keep the name of…

meta comment - an important moment in a trend where the human and human act of authorship, the attribution in a human social way, is melted and disassociated by typos or noise; meanwhile the centralized compute store, its brand, its reach and recognition, grow.
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