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MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by fratis »

pkamb wrote: post #77
gurkendoktor wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought 10.6 was so-so - I preferred Leopard's Exposé. I hate 10.7. But 10.8 makes sense again, especially now that 3rd-party apps are catching up with the concepts of 10.7.

FYI, you can use Leopard's Exposé in Snow Leopard: http://superuser.com/questions/118424/old-leopard-expose-on-... I really miss "all windows" Exposé; Mission Control is not a worthy replacement. Any word on Exposé changes in 10.8?

For me, it's really Spaces whose usefulness was diminished in 10.7. They used to be configurable in multiple dimensions (i.e., X & Y): now they're linear only. Lame city.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by _b8r0 »

w1ntermute wrote: post #79
huggyface wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no interest in such a discussion in this thread, but no, clearly I'm not joking and that rhetorical intro has no place on HN. Microsoft is a disaster currently, their navigation being "react to where Apple was two years ago". It is telling that every Microsoft defense extrapolates some fantastic future of what will be in the world of Microsoft, never using what actually is. But yes, I'm sure your imagination o…

> Microsoft is a walking disaster currently. The problem is perspective. The types of people that spend time on HN don't spend time in the real world, where the current state of affairs is very different from what we think it is. Apple gets a lot of hype, and no doubt the iPhone is very successful (because it was a new type of product), but the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy. Once Windows 8 tablets are rel…

> the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy.

Not true. I use my iPad every day. My use varies from maybe 30 minutes of email to a good few hours. On my iPad I write, I organise my day, I handle notes and document recipes for things I cook. I deliberately try to keep it a personal rather than business device but I still use it for work email, calendaring and a few bits and pieces (mostly notes). I read incessantly on the iPad and it's my primary source of daily news.

> Once Windows 8 tablets are released and become commonplace, the iPad will stand no chance.

You're betting on an unestablished fractured software experience against the main market leader? I can understand Windows 8 standing a chance against Blackberry, against WebOS and maybe against pre-ICS Android but it will take a long time for Windows 8 to catch up with Android if it blows Android out of the water. Once it's managed to get that far there has to be something seriously wrong with iOS for it to overtake. Also if you're planning on betting on Office to see you through, hate to be the one to burst your bubble but Office has been available for the iPad for months, and the iPad's had office-compatible document readers/writers that are good enough for simple documents for years.

> The iTV simply will not sell

You are right, but this is because the iTV does not exist for sale. Apple haven't announced it. There is no iTV product.

> Have you been living under a rock?

There really is no need for this type of thing on HN.

> Windows 8 is coming out this October. Several consumer previews have already been released, and hardware has been demoed. Windows 8 tablets are much more of a real entity than you seem to think.

Can I buy a Windows 8 table now? No. Can I evaluate a consumer preview version of Windows 8 on an iPad? Yes. So in a way you're right, but given that the only real entities are the wrong devices running a prototype it's not fair to compare. However, having used the consumer preview in Parallels I have to say I'm not looking forward to metro on the desktop, but on the tablet it might work well.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by jroll »

_b8r0 wrote: post #180
ageektrapped wrote: post #24

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Speaking as a Windows user who uses a Mac for dev on iOS: you will be frustrated by Mac OS, at least initially. I've been using Mac OS daily for over a year and I still find Windows superior in many ways. This is my opinion, of course. Not trying to change minds or trolling. That retina display is dead sexy though.

As someone using the 2011 Macbook (bought about a month ago) I have to say some things really annoy me in OSX, some things less so. I'm slowly getting used to the Mac way of doing things, but still occasionally cmd-L to lock my screen only to find I have to go to a hot corner instead.

Try Lock Me Now [1], which lets you lock your screen from the menu bar or configure a keyboard shortcut.

[1] http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lock-me-now/id464265594?mt=12

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by jurre »

pook1e wrote: post #197
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #107

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This is just rich to me. Yes, enjoy your Visual Studio and broken command line, I'll be using lightweight tools and an actual POSIX command line. *edit: Wow, -10? Sorry, I was just sharing my experience of being mocked by people who proudly brag about their Windows 7 machine and are barely proficient at .NET programming who give me a hard time because "Macs are lame and Windows is for geeks". Didn't know there were s…

Just because they don't use OS X doesn't mean they use Windows. As a Computer Science student I'm willing to bet that most of those that "banter" on the parent use Linux.

No, they actually all use windows!

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by rdl »

dvdhsu wrote: post #185
rdl wrote: post #136

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If you look at Silicon Valley startups, it's basically almost all Macs, with the possible exception of Windows + Excel for CFOs at the larger companies, and Windows + CAD for people doing hardware design at a serious level. i.e. conference tables have MagSafe power adapters zip tied to them semi-permanently, since that's what almost everyone uses.

> i.e. conference tables have MagSafe power adapters zip tied to them semi-permanently, since that's what almost everyone uses. It's too bad that Apple is moving to MagSafe II with the new retina MacBook Pro. I guess we'll all have to carry around adapters now: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD504

Dear god why? I am actually quite unimpressed by the entire WWDC lineup, but they made so many stupid mistakes like this. There is almost no advantage to using a slightly slimmer MagSafe, and moderate cost; there would be greater advantage to a smaller iPod Dock connector, but much higher cost, so I guess they'll do that too.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by reyan »

w1ntermute wrote: post #79
huggyface wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no interest in such a discussion in this thread, but no, clearly I'm not joking and that rhetorical intro has no place on HN. Microsoft is a disaster currently, their navigation being "react to where Apple was two years ago". It is telling that every Microsoft defense extrapolates some fantastic future of what will be in the world of Microsoft, never using what actually is. But yes, I'm sure your imagination o…

> Microsoft is a walking disaster currently. The problem is perspective. The types of people that spend time on HN don't spend time in the real world, where the current state of affairs is very different from what we think it is. Apple gets a lot of hype, and no doubt the iPhone is very successful (because it was a new type of product), but the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy. Once Windows 8 tablets are rel…

Units sold:

- Xbox 360: 67.2 million (released 2005)

- iPad: 67.1 million (released 2010)

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by maximilian »

wmf wrote: post #30
jiggy2011 wrote: post #17

So, what is the effective resolution of the MBP now?

1440x900, same as the old "low res" screen.

I was going to say this, but I would say its slightly better because the "effective" pixels are sharper -- You could probably run a text editor with a smaller font and still feel comfortable.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by darrenkopp »

natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

I still don't understand why people want to switch platforms. I'm using a macbook pro with windows. OSX is terrible in my opinion, and so I just use bootcamp and go on my merry way.
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