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For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)

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Re: For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)

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If you want the real thing you have to go to the restaurant named after his wife: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Sanders_Dinner_House

Huh interesting. I always thought he was a military retired Colonel and as such already pretty rich before he started the franchise. I had no idea it was also a Honorary title in America.

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I live in the US and am constantly disappointed by the fact that I have to pay extra to add onions to my Taco Bell burrito or lettuce and tomato to a McDouble (typically when on a road trip with friends). As it turns out this might be attributable to companies optimizing for consumers' dollars instead of flavor preferences [1]: > “They liked flavorful foods like turkey tetrazzini, but only at first; they quickly grew…

Broccoli is perfectly fine boiled. It's just that it takes literally 2 minutes to get brilliant green and slightly crunchy broccoli, while some home cooks put it on for 20 minutes. It's nice lightly salted with a bit of fresh lemon juice and sprinkled with sliced almonds. I will admit that any vegetable probably tastes better if you add bacon but I'm not sure that's a slight against the cooking method itself.

>Broccoli is perfectly fine boiled. It's just that it takes literally 2 minutes to get brilliant green and slightly crunchy broccoli, while some home cooks put it on for 20 minutes.

Yep, it wasn't until long after I had moved out of home that I figured out broccoli can actually be pretty tasty, and not nasty slop, for exactly this reason.

Re: For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)

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> My takeaway is that Sanders cared about serving quality fast food, and KFC corporate cared about reducing costs and doing brand necromancy. The upshot is you won't get KFC chicken at KFC, just a pale, cheap imitation of the original Assuming that's the case, the anecdote in the article of him walking into the kitchen in a random KFC and berating the people for making the chicken the was they did seems a bit unfair;…

Went there with a reporter from the NY Times , and put on a show in the kitchen. One hopes he didn't make a habit of "walking into the kitchen in a random KFC and berating the people", but this specific incident was not that at all.

Yeah it sounds more like a media show he put on to our pressure precisely on that corporation rather than the people in the kitchen.

Probably pretty effective too considering he was Mr. Brand Image

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I’d say they’re responding to different market demands.

Definitely. Dining out regularly, even at fast food places, is not necessarily a usual, or normal thing for lots of Europeans. Most "middle-class" people I know, like teachers or so, dine out probably a few times a year to celebrate an event. Groceries are cheap and fresh and people have less disposable income in Europe, generally. Fast food's biggest competitor is home cooking. It's also the reason why we prefer (or…

Depends very highly on region.

Here in Spain it's very very common to eat out for our lunch break at work. We don't even have a full canteen at the office because everyone just goes to the local restaurants anyway.

For around 12€ you get a daily rotating menu with a few choices for starter, main, dessert or coffee and a drink. And it's a nice relaxed experience rather than a quick canteen sandwich while everyone looks at their watch.

Eating out at lunch time is so common almost all restaurants do these cheap menus and are pretty full. During the night it's more for special occasions and a la carte with higher pricing. Many restaurants around the office don't even open at night as they don't get the volume.

Re: For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)

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If you want the real thing you have to go to the restaurant named after his wife: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Sanders_Dinner_House

Huh interesting. I always thought he was a military retired Colonel and as such already pretty rich before he started the franchise. I had no idea it was also a Honorary title in America.

US military used to be largely made up of state militias (dating back to colonial days), run by the governor, with the federal government sometimes funding, equipping, and mobilizing those militias in times of war. Commissions in state militias were sometimes used by governors as a reward or gift to their political supporters. In particular, "colonel" was a rank often bestowed on wealthy benefactors without any expectation of actual military duty.

The militias were largely nationalized in the early 1900s, creating what's now called the National Guard. Governors still have limited power to deploy their state Guard but they're mostly under federal control. But some states retained the tradition of honorary colonels, and Kentucky is probably the most famous.

(There are a lot of other kind of goofy honorary state militia titles in the US -- Admiral of the Texas Navy, etc. Some of them don't require much more than paying a fee.)

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it also implies paying protection money to be halal, which goes to spread islam in the west

What would you say about kosher certification?

i do not know as much about it, but from my very surface level understanding, that is more a fee you pay to certify your process, whereas halal needs protection money by the quantity

that being said, both should not be happening

Re: For the Colonel, It Was Finger-Lickin’ Bad (1976)

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If you want the real thing you have to go to the restaurant named after his wife: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Sanders_Dinner_House

3 of the worst corporate decisions they made ever:

1. Getting rid of the BBQ pulled chicken sandwich - Long ago they had it and it was inexpensive to make and quite good. Many people to this day complain about no longer being able to find it anywhere.

2. Phasing out their grilled chicken - It was quite good, and people who wanted a healthier option than fried chicken, like me, simply don't go anymore because it's disappearing.

3. Merging with Taco Bell - The menu is far too big now, and Taco Bell items are lower in quality and cheaper. I think it's the final move to phase KFC out.

When are people going to realize that telling customers what they want, reducing value and quality, and ignoring their complaints is not a good business model?

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I’d say they’re responding to different market demands.

Definitely. Dining out regularly, even at fast food places, is not necessarily a usual, or normal thing for lots of Europeans. Most "middle-class" people I know, like teachers or so, dine out probably a few times a year to celebrate an event. Groceries are cheap and fresh and people have less disposable income in Europe, generally. Fast food's biggest competitor is home cooking. It's also the reason why we prefer (or…

> Groceries are cheap and fresh

I took my kids to the Netherlands a few years ago; in the week we stayed there, they wiped out almost every berry the local (very small) grocery store had in stock. My kids couldn't believe how much tastier they were compared to what we could buy back home.

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Huh interesting. I always thought he was a military retired Colonel and as such already pretty rich before he started the franchise. I had no idea it was also a Honorary title in America.

US military used to be largely made up of state militias (dating back to colonial days), run by the governor, with the federal government sometimes funding, equipping, and mobilizing those militias in times of war. Commissions in state militias were sometimes used by governors as a reward or gift to their political supporters. In particular, "colonel" was a rank often bestowed on wealthy benefactors without any expec…

Kentucky became famous for it because it did immediately stop being an militia title in every way. A charitable foundation was setup for using the title as a part of a charitable works program and several early Governors involved in that decided that it would be a useful idea to give the title to celebrities and other "ambassadors" to/from the commonwealth, making it as much a title to promote tourism as anything else.

I think that's the fun ouroboros nature of Colonel Sanders' title in that he was made a Colonel for the predecessor to KFC. (The Sanders Cafe at his Standard Oil Gas Station was one of the first "Welcome to Kentucky" stops for early car travelers coming into Kentucky via the roads through the Cumberland Pass [I-75 today].) The Colonel of KFC was a Colonel because of KFC, just about.

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The first and second times I visited KFC in the US I was shocked there were no vegetables in their sandwiches. Other than the corn, and coleslaw, no lettuce or other ingredients in the sandwiches. In europe, and China and any other country I’ve seen KFC they have amazing Zinger sandwiches with lattice and sauces and grea flavor. We make it a point to never go to KFC in the US.

Yeah, vegetable prices vary a lot seasonally and US fast food companies have decided steady profit margins are "better" than a varied menu with good vegetable options.

It's maybe the biggest shame for KFC itself to have fallen to the same rough cost minimizing as the rest of its industry: there was a time in the US where KFC was almost synonymous with a full meal of chicken (obviously), mashed potatoes (technically a vegetable, though with all that dairy and gravy not the healthiest one), and green beans. It's the green beans I miss the most from today's KFC.

Also, for many decades some KFC franchises did lunch buffets that were incredible vegetable buffets: lima beans, collard/mustard greens, green beans, and salads. (Plenty of non-vegetables, too, and pies and such to make up for any attempt at healthy eating.) I think COVID killed the US KFC Buffet for good, and many of the franchises that used to run them have even switched brands to something more "exciting". (Often KFCs are getting replaced by that pickle brine dipped chicken brand that even more doesn't bother with any vegetables that aren't pickles or potatoes, and is doing very good business in this country right now despite how bland their food is, in part due to strange political alignments.)

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