Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

arstechnica.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–180 of 541 posts

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#171

Post by manmal »

bratsche wrote: post #122

I'm curious to know how Mac handles apps moving between a Retina Display Mac and a non-Retina display (Thunderbolt, whatever). Apps need to be updated to handle retina, otherwise they draw double pixels.. so what happens when you have a window that's halfway between a Retina and non-Retina? My two guesses: 1. The entire window draws as doubled pixels, as if it didn't support Retina at all 2. The window gets two separ…

I'm pretty sure that the drawing system emulates the x2 resolution boost introduced in iOS devices - apps will draw in points, and 1pt = 2px for a retina Macbook. Switching between 1x and 2x drawing should be seamless - one exception being that images would have to be reloaded when going from 1x to 2x.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#172

Post by flixic »

breckinloggins wrote: post #3

This may sound weird, but I'm most curious to see how the terminal looks on a retina display (when Apple or someone like iTerm makes one for it). I think having paper-resolution monospaced fonts will be awesome.

I know that true hackers don't anti-alias monotype fonts, but I have been using anti-aliased Consolas for a few years now. It is a font best-designed coding books use (http://www.abookapart.com/), and it should only look better, not worse, on print-like display.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#173

Post by mgkimsal »

randomdrake wrote: post #133
mgkimsal wrote: post #98

Is the line in port gone? Having line in and headphones out has been great for my use cases, and I was sad to see those go from the 13". Are they gone across the board now?

The 15" still has the line in. The 13" does not.

thanks - couldn't tell from the picture.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#174

Post by _b8r0 »

masklinn wrote: post #129
lazerwalker wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, if you're comfortable with Linux and do a lot of work in a Cygwin environment, what are your reasons for running Windows as your MBA's main OS rather than a Linux flavor?

> rather than a Linux flavor? Or a BSD.

Or a BSD-derived OS with a hat-tip to NextStep?

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#175

Post by alexanderh »

ropiku wrote: post #43
phamilton wrote: post #21

I'm curious about Magsafe2. As a student, knowing that 20% of students on campus (those with Apple computers) use the same charger as me, I find it really easy to borrow a cable for 20 minutes to get charged up for class. I'm guessing Magsafe2 isn't compatible with traditional magsafe.

Update: It's not but they sell a $9.99 adapter "The MagSafe to MagSafe 2 Converter allows you to use the MagSafe connector on your LED Cinema Display, Thunderbolt Display, or MagSafe Power Adapter to charge your MagSafe 2-equipped Mac computer." It looks and I would guess it would be magsafe 1 compatible. Maybe it has extra features or power to it. Pretty much any MB* can be charged on any power adapter albeit slower…

Nope, you need a "Apple MagSafe to MagSafe 2 Converter"

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#176

Post by Karunamon »

w1ntermute wrote: post #79
huggyface wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no interest in such a discussion in this thread, but no, clearly I'm not joking and that rhetorical intro has no place on HN. Microsoft is a disaster currently, their navigation being "react to where Apple was two years ago". It is telling that every Microsoft defense extrapolates some fantastic future of what will be in the world of Microsoft, never using what actually is. But yes, I'm sure your imagination o…

> Microsoft is a walking disaster currently. The problem is perspective. The types of people that spend time on HN don't spend time in the real world, where the current state of affairs is very different from what we think it is. Apple gets a lot of hype, and no doubt the iPhone is very successful (because it was a new type of product), but the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy. Once Windows 8 tablets are rel…

>but the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy.

>Have you been living under a rock?

No, but it seems you have.

If I've said it before I've said it 1,000 times: Just because it doesn't fit your use case doesn't mean it doesn't fit that of others.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#177

Post by rdl »

Havoc wrote: post #167
rdl wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2010 Air did t have AES-NI either, which made FileVault slow. 2011 MBA just lacks 8gb; I think I will be sticking with mine since I do my heavy VM work on another machine. Lack of gigabit Ethernet on the big pro air makes me sad, though.

>Lack of gigabit Ethernet on the big pro air makes me sad, though. Presumably the logic is that its all wifi these days anyway.

Except it isn't. The real problem is that the RJ-45 connector is huge and antiquated, so it can't fit on the MBA form factor. I work in a lot of places where GE makes a lot more sense (inside a datacenter, in places which prohibit wireless, or places where you want to be connected to multiple different networks). I guarantee the $99 (?) thunderbolt to gig-e dongle gets left on a cable somewhere several times, which will suck, same as the mbp/tb to DVI things.

Kind of silly given that the new Macbook Pro Air HD Super 15 has a better display than anything else I own, so I'm not going to necessarily want to put a 1920x1200 24" or even 2560x1600 30" in the center of my desk with it -- I'd treat the laptop display as primary, on a stand, with a keyboard. But Apple doesn't make a docking solution, and the Belkin/Matrox docks have been vaporware for over a year.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#178

Post by tewks »

alexanderh wrote: post #149
cheatercheater wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm probably missing something: why have a HDMI port if you have two Thunderbolt ports? In fact, why not just have three Thunderbolt ports - even if one is only going to carry DP and not PCI?

Because people hate dongles. Especially when they're $30-$50 from apple. Might as well have native HDMI since a majority of consumer electronic still have them, and just about nothing has Thunderbolt yet. And again. People HATE buying, carying, and remembering dongles.

I'm at WWDC now on my MacBook Air and wish that I remembered my ethernet adaptor...

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

#180

Post by _b8r0 »

ageektrapped wrote: post #24
natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Speaking as a Windows user who uses a Mac for dev on iOS: you will be frustrated by Mac OS, at least initially. I've been using Mac OS daily for over a year and I still find Windows superior in many ways. This is my opinion, of course. Not trying to change minds or trolling. That retina display is dead sexy though.

As someone using the 2011 Macbook (bought about a month ago) I have to say some things really annoy me in OSX, some things less so. I'm slowly getting used to the Mac way of doing things, but still occasionally cmd-L to lock my screen only to find I have to go to a hot corner instead.
Post reply on HN