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The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by antonvs »

solardev wrote: post #4
parpfish wrote: post #2

Millennials will talk about four loko the same way their parents talked about lawn darts

Wow, as a Millennial, I must've totally missed the memo on this stuff. Never heard of Four Loko or energy beers at all... sounds disgusting.

They weren't actually called energy beers.

In the US, they fall under the same legal category as beer, which is "malt beverage", but beer is just one type of malt beverage, drinks like Four Loko are another.

They're closer to drinks like "hard lemonade" or "hard tea", which aren't beer. They're made by adding malt liquor to some flavored drink.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by Zak »

I always thought the litigation and regulatory pressure over this was misplaced. Consuming a single serving of the most outrageous product described in the article (22oz, 12% alcohol, 156mg caffeine) is not acutely dangerous to a healthy adult who isn't about to drive a car. Chugging multiple of them is a bad decision of course, but it's just as easy to drink other alcoholic beverages to excess - perhaps easier with hard liquor.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by mort96 »

sneak wrote: post #5
parpfish wrote: post #2

Millennials will talk about four loko the same way their parents talked about lawn darts

You can’t buy lawn darts anymore. Every bar will make you a vodka redbull.

Lots of bars around here will also have lawn darts which you can play while drinking your 8th vodka redbull, which I find interesting

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by TylerE »

solardev wrote: post #4
parpfish wrote: post #2

Millennials will talk about four loko the same way their parents talked about lawn darts

Wow, as a Millennial, I must've totally missed the memo on this stuff. Never heard of Four Loko or energy beers at all... sounds disgusting.

Tho off brand Red Bull with a couple of rotgut vodka shots already mixed in.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by TylerE »

Zak wrote: post #12

I always thought the litigation and regulatory pressure over this was misplaced. Consuming a single serving of the most outrageous product described in the article (22oz, 12% alcohol, 156mg caffeine) is not acutely dangerous to a healthy adult who isn't about to drive a car. Chugging multiple of them is a bad decision of course, but it's just as easy to drink other alcoholic beverages to excess - perhaps easier with…

Very few adults, especially if we’re talking 40+, are healthy. By that age almost everyone has high blood pressure or asthma or a bad knee, or whatever.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by itishappy »

Zak wrote: post #12

I always thought the litigation and regulatory pressure over this was misplaced. Consuming a single serving of the most outrageous product described in the article (22oz, 12% alcohol, 156mg caffeine) is not acutely dangerous to a healthy adult who isn't about to drive a car. Chugging multiple of them is a bad decision of course, but it's just as easy to drink other alcoholic beverages to excess - perhaps easier with…

A can of FourLoco contains 4.75 servings.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by antonvs »

antonvs wrote: post #9
sneak wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can’t buy lawn darts anymore. Every bar will make you a vodka redbull.

You'd have to ask for more than three and a half shots of vodka to match the alcohol in a 22oz Four Loko can.

Correcting myself: I was thinking of a different can apparently. That 12% ABV can mentioned in the article corresponds to 4.4 shots of vodka (using standard US 1.5 oz shots of 80 proof vodka.)

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by Zak »

itishappy wrote: post #17
Zak wrote: post #12

I always thought the litigation and regulatory pressure over this was misplaced. Consuming a single serving of the most outrageous product described in the article (22oz, 12% alcohol, 156mg caffeine) is not acutely dangerous to a healthy adult who isn't about to drive a car. Chugging multiple of them is a bad decision of course, but it's just as easy to drink other alcoholic beverages to excess - perhaps easier with…

A can of FourLoco contains 4.75 servings.

I assume you mean manufacturer-recommended servings printed on the label. I meant drinking one can.

Re: The electrifying rise and litigious fall of energy beer

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Post by michaelt »

TylerE wrote: post #15
Zak wrote: post #12

I always thought the litigation and regulatory pressure over this was misplaced. Consuming a single serving of the most outrageous product described in the article (22oz, 12% alcohol, 156mg caffeine) is not acutely dangerous to a healthy adult who isn't about to drive a car. Chugging multiple of them is a bad decision of course, but it's just as easy to drink other alcoholic beverages to excess - perhaps easier with…

Very few adults, especially if we’re talking 40+, are healthy. By that age almost everyone has high blood pressure or asthma or a bad knee, or whatever.

I don't think "people aged 40+" were four loco's target market.

Isn't this stuff mostly for 20-somethings on their way to a nightclub, who want to get drunk and stay up until 4am?

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