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Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by neutronicus »

calinet6 wrote: post #78
breckinloggins wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just promise us that when you do, you won't become a rabid fanboy yourself. By all rights I should be the biggest fanboy ever. All my computers are Macs. I have an Apple TV. I stood in line to buy the first iPhone on launch day and have owned nothing but iPhones since. I have an iPad. I insist on using Apple services like iTunes so everything "just works" with all my Apple devices. I even converted my whole family fr…

IMHO Apple fanboyism is not a problem in the hacker community. It's a well-built solid metal portable development workstation. With BSD UNIX. And a pretty layer on top. Among programmers, I never need to explain why we would buy these things. It's outside the programming groups that the conversation gets hostile. I find most programmers avoid this completely, knowing that they're simply using the best tool available…

I wish people would refrain from using the word "fanboy" on HN.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by randomdrake »

mgkimsal wrote: post #98

Is the line in port gone? Having line in and headphones out has been great for my use cases, and I was sad to see those go from the 13". Are they gone across the board now?

The 15" still has the line in. The 13" does not.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by masklinn »

cheatercheater wrote: post #99
natural219 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, it's a culmination of things. Up until this point, a friend of mine have been comparing the top-of-the-line ultrabook offerings to the Mac lineups. I thought the Zenbooks looked really sexy and had the performance and construction that I wanted. The new Zenbook Prime announcement has had me salivating; 1080p IPS displays, new Ivy Bridge processors, etc. After this announcement, though; the Retina display, a…

I'm probably missing something: why have a HDMI port if you have two Thunderbolt ports? In fact, why not just have three Thunderbolt ports - even if one is only going to carry DP and not PCI?

> why have a HDMI port if you have two Thunderbolt ports?

> [...]

> In fact, why not just have three Thunderbolt ports

Avoids needing a dongle when plugging into an HDTV or an HDMI overhead projector, I'm guessing. They probably considered the pros and cons and ended up thinking two TB ports were enough and HDMI was requested often enough it would make sense, especially as they'd axed both GigE and FW800.

And one of the TB port will often be used for e.g. a GigE adapter.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by swah »

Jtsummers wrote: post #119
swah wrote: post #104

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On Win7 now, have been on the Mac and would get back if I had the means. One thing I will never get used to on Macs: no Ctrl-C.

What do you mean, "No ctrl-C?" As in no keyboard shortcut to copy? That's "command-c", just like pasting is "command-v" and cutting is "command-x". And if you mean ctrl-c, to kill tasks on the command line, that works just fine. And delightfully doesn't create confusion when you wanted to copy something out of the terminal instead of killing the program that was running.

Sorry I mean't no "Ctrl-X" (is there Cut on OSX?)

[edit: I've only used Snow Leopard]

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by rdl »

jurre wrote: post #97
calinet6 wrote: post #78

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IMHO Apple fanboyism is not a problem in the hacker community. It's a well-built solid metal portable development workstation. With BSD UNIX. And a pretty layer on top. Among programmers, I never need to explain why we would buy these things. It's outside the programming groups that the conversation gets hostile. I find most programmers avoid this completely, knowing that they're simply using the best tool available…

I study computer science and the amount of banter I get from fellow students for using a macbook air is unbelievable. Other people usually seem quite ok with it, although self proclaimed power users usually seem to have an opinion about it.

If you look at Silicon Valley startups, it's basically almost all Macs, with the possible exception of Windows + Excel for CFOs at the larger companies, and Windows + CAD for people doing hardware design at a serious level. i.e. conference tables have MagSafe power adapters zip tied to them semi-permanently, since that's what almost everyone uses.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by moystard »

microtonal wrote: post #11
natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Why? I have been using a Mac since 2007. So far, I haven't seen anything spectacular in this keynote except for the retina display. But $2199 (probably 2199 Euro in Europe) is a steep price. Edit: Given the lack of real interesting updates in OS X since Leopard and recent iOS versions, I am actually quite interested in Windows 8 and Windows Phone after ~18 years of using Unix-like operating systems and ~5.5 years a M…

As much as I love this new Macbook Pro with this beautiful retina display, Mountain Lion is just another iteration in the iOS direction and I still don't like the user experience. As usual, I will use several tools to get back to the old but good desktop metaphor with less shiny but functional features.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by polycom »

jmsduran wrote: post #116
natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Although I didn't watch the keynote, I tuned in to the live tweeting CNN gave. Don't get me wrong, Apple's Macbook Pro is a nice piece of hardware, but I failed to see anything earth-shattering in their recent announcements. At a high level, they're really just upgrading to Ivy Bridge, USB 3.0, and Retina displays across their notebook line. Nothing mind-blowing really.

I think the diaplays alone are pretty great. What would it take for you to call them mind-blowing?

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by xiaoma »

natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

I too was windows/nix only until joining a start-up in Beijing that was doing iOS work. It amazes me how quickly I adjusted to Mac OS and after only a year I find it frustrating every time I have to go back to windows. Having just moved to San Francisco myself, I find it nice suddenly being in the majority.

Edit: Oh, and as soon as I have a job, I'm getting one! I've been drooling over Ivy Bridge specs for months.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by phamilton »

tcox wrote: post #15
LaSombra wrote: post #10

I don't want a "Retina display", I want a true 1920x1080 on my 15" MBP. Apple is trying to impose that density is the same thing as resolution, which is not. A "Retina display" of 2880x1800 is just a "better" 1440x900. Give me the option to choose between double pixels and real pixels and I'll buy thee.

Presumably you'll have that option? Can't see why not. I'm guessing there'll be an option in the Display control panel.

http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

Supported resolutions: 2880 by 1800 pixels (Retina); scaled resolutions: 1920 by 1200, 1680 by 1050, 1280 by 800, and 1024 by 640 pixels

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