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MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by lazerwalker »

w1ntermute wrote: post #79
huggyface wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no interest in such a discussion in this thread, but no, clearly I'm not joking and that rhetorical intro has no place on HN. Microsoft is a disaster currently, their navigation being "react to where Apple was two years ago". It is telling that every Microsoft defense extrapolates some fantastic future of what will be in the world of Microsoft, never using what actually is. But yes, I'm sure your imagination o…

> Microsoft is a walking disaster currently. The problem is perspective. The types of people that spend time on HN don't spend time in the real world, where the current state of affairs is very different from what we think it is. Apple gets a lot of hype, and no doubt the iPhone is very successful (because it was a new type of product), but the iPad is no more than than a glorified toy. Once Windows 8 tablets are rel…

> And don't forget about the TV. The iTV simply will not sell, because people are not going to throw out their existing TVs just so they can get the latest shiny toy from Cupertino.

There isn't any value to be had in arguing that Apple has designed a terrible product that has no reason to exist when it does not, in fact, exist. When and if Apple releases a TV product other than the current Apple TV, I'm sure it will be fascinating to see what form it takes and whether or not it manages to capture any meaningful marketshare. Until then, you're needlessly attacking a strawman based purely on rumors and hearsay.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by Steko »

LaSombra wrote: post #10

I don't want a "Retina display", I want a true 1920x1080 on my 15" MBP. Apple is trying to impose that density is the same thing as resolution, which is not. A "Retina display" of 2880x1800 is just a "better" 1440x900. Give me the option to choose between double pixels and real pixels and I'll buy thee.

"Apple is trying to impose that density is the same thing as resolution"

I think you've confused "resolution" with "my preferred resolution". The new MBP has both a higher density and a better resolution then what you're looking for. You may be disappointed but I bet Apple thinks it can make more money by selling 2880x1800 MBPs.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by jonknee »

cheatercheater wrote: post #99
natural219 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, it's a culmination of things. Up until this point, a friend of mine have been comparing the top-of-the-line ultrabook offerings to the Mac lineups. I thought the Zenbooks looked really sexy and had the performance and construction that I wanted. The new Zenbook Prime announcement has had me salivating; 1080p IPS displays, new Ivy Bridge processors, etc. After this announcement, though; the Retina display, a…

I'm probably missing something: why have a HDMI port if you have two Thunderbolt ports? In fact, why not just have three Thunderbolt ports - even if one is only going to carry DP and not PCI?

Why would you need three Thunderbolt ports? The devices chain pretty well, if you have an external monitor for example it will also have a Thunderbolt port that other devices can be plugged into. Not needing another adapter to use HDMI is great. You already need one for Ethernet and FireWire.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by adrianhoward »

notatoad wrote: post #89
saturdaysaint wrote: post #5

As a 2011 MacBook Air user, my biggest envy is USB 3.0. Thunderbolt accessories have been few and far between, and then priced at an exorbitant premium. But hey, they finally made a Thunderbolt Firewire adapter cable.

USB 3 accessories are pretty far and few between too, aren't they? What do you actually want to plug in to that port?

My external hard drive :-)

I throw a lot of data around. I like backups. The difference between USB2 and USB3 will be non-trivial for me.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by jmsduran »

natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Although I didn't watch the keynote, I tuned in to the live tweeting CNN gave. Don't get me wrong, Apple's Macbook Pro is a nice piece of hardware, but I failed to see anything earth-shattering in their recent announcements.

At a high level, they're really just upgrading to Ivy Bridge, USB 3.0, and Retina displays across their notebook line. Nothing mind-blowing really.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by tsycho »

cheatercheater wrote: post #99
natural219 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, it's a culmination of things. Up until this point, a friend of mine have been comparing the top-of-the-line ultrabook offerings to the Mac lineups. I thought the Zenbooks looked really sexy and had the performance and construction that I wanted. The new Zenbook Prime announcement has had me salivating; 1080p IPS displays, new Ivy Bridge processors, etc. After this announcement, though; the Retina display, a…

I'm probably missing something: why have a HDMI port if you have two Thunderbolt ports? In fact, why not just have three Thunderbolt ports - even if one is only going to carry DP and not PCI?

Currently most TVs and other large displays don't support Thunderbolt, but almost all support HDMI.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by pbrumm »

notatoad wrote: post #89
saturdaysaint wrote: post #5

As a 2011 MacBook Air user, my biggest envy is USB 3.0. Thunderbolt accessories have been few and far between, and then priced at an exorbitant premium. But hey, they finally made a Thunderbolt Firewire adapter cable.

USB 3 accessories are pretty far and few between too, aren't they? What do you actually want to plug in to that port?

cheap extra hard drive dock would be first

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-ST0022U-Plastic-Docking-St...

all the thunderbolt ones are very expensive.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by Jtsummers »

swah wrote: post #104
ageektrapped wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking as a Windows user who uses a Mac for dev on iOS: you will be frustrated by Mac OS, at least initially. I've been using Mac OS daily for over a year and I still find Windows superior in many ways. This is my opinion, of course. Not trying to change minds or trolling. That retina display is dead sexy though.

On Win7 now, have been on the Mac and would get back if I had the means. One thing I will never get used to on Macs: no Ctrl-C.

What do you mean, "No ctrl-C?" As in no keyboard shortcut to copy? That's "command-c", just like pasting is "command-v" and cutting is "command-x". And if you mean ctrl-c, to kill tasks on the command line, that works just fine. And delightfully doesn't create confusion when you wanted to copy something out of the terminal instead of killing the program that was running.
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