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MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by huggyface »

w1ntermute wrote: post #54
huggyface wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you be specific about what swayed you? Such announcements provide opportunity for a pivot point. It isn't so much the announcement itself as that the announcement provides a claimed justification for changing positions. I bought my first Apple product ever a few months back (an iPad 3rd generation). Then I added an Apple TV (ridiculously good value). I still use Android for my smartphone (and have no plans on c…

> Microsoft is so rudderless and ill-directed now, and Apple is so large and in charge Uhh, are you joking? In the past few years, Microsoft has shown the most direction in 2 decades. Windows, Windows Phone, and Xbox are all converging on the Metro UI (which is a true breath of fresh air), and Microsoft has finally stopped allowing big business to hold back innovation on Windows. Windows 8 dumps the Start Menu, and o…

I have no interest in such a discussion in this thread, but no, clearly I'm not joking and that rhetorical intro has no place on HN.

Microsoft is a disaster currently, their navigation being "react to where Apple was two years ago". It is telling that every Microsoft defense extrapolates some fantastic future of what will be in the world of Microsoft, never using what actually is. But yes, I'm sure your imagination of a Windows 8 tablet is vastly superior to an actual real-world iPad.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by mtgx »

megablast wrote: post #34
icegreentea wrote: post #4

Should clear this up. There is an updated MacBook Air line (11" and 13"). There is an updated MacBook Pro line (13" and 15" with 'normal' screen, same chassis and updated internals). And then there is a new 15" MacBook Pro with a 2880 x 1800 screen and is 0.71" thick. I like to dub this one the MacBook Pro Air.

So the Air do not have the retina display? The 15" pro would be good, but can not go back to a mechanical hdd.

No, but if you want you can get 11" or 13" ultrabook from Asus with a 1080p resolution.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by scott_s »

soc88 wrote: post #48

I guess the “Retina Display” is the admission that they never figured out how to do decent font rendering?

Apple and Microsoft have different philosophies on what is important when rendering fonts: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/06/font-rendering-resp...

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Post by stock_toaster »

rdl wrote: post #28
sciurus wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The option of 8GB of RAM is nice, since the RAM isn't upgradable.

2010 Air did t have AES-NI either, which made FileVault slow. 2011 MBA just lacks 8gb; I think I will be sticking with mine since I do my heavy VM work on another machine. Lack of gigabit Ethernet on the big pro air makes me sad, though.

Integrated gigabit. There is apparently going to be a thunderbolt gigabit ethernet dongle, and thunderbolt can actually support gigabit speeds.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by megablast »

jmelloy wrote: post #46
megablast wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the Air do not have the retina display? The 15" pro would be good, but can not go back to a mechanical hdd.

The 15" Pro with the retina display is SSD.

Just read that as well, which makes it a very valid option. Would be great to develop on a screen like this.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by mikeryan »

ageektrapped wrote: post #24
natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Speaking as a Windows user who uses a Mac for dev on iOS: you will be frustrated by Mac OS, at least initially. I've been using Mac OS daily for over a year and I still find Windows superior in many ways. This is my opinion, of course. Not trying to change minds or trolling. That retina display is dead sexy though.

Its funny I had the same issue but can say after 5 years on a Mac it goes away. That and I sometimes have to work on a Windows 7 machine for certain SDK's and now I'm lost over there. Mostly I miss the large multi-touch track pad (I have to use a mouse on the windows laptop) and Expose, which I seem to use a lot.

The new Windows 8 Metro UI will create an ever bigger gap between the two it seems.

All that being said, w/r/t an OS it seems like the one you're most comfortable on is the one you should use. Its really hard to say any one that is objectively better at this point.

Re: MacBook Pro gets Retina Display; MacBook Air updated with Ivy Bridge

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Post by 51Cards »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #17

So, what is the effective resolution of the MBP now?

I have a true 1080P on my 13.3" Vaio Z notebook which I run at the full 1920x1080. I would stick with that over this new MB screen. It's all about effective resolution when you are trying to get things done and that hasn't changed on the MB.

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Post by gurkendoktor »

microtonal wrote: post #11
natural219 wrote: post #8

I have been a Windows user my whole life. As a hacker who has recently moved to San Francisco, I've continuously battled Apple fanboys and Linux fanatics alike on why I love Windows and absolutely do not understand why people want to switch platforms. Then I watched this keynote. I'm buying a Macbook Pro.

Why? I have been using a Mac since 2007. So far, I haven't seen anything spectacular in this keynote except for the retina display. But $2199 (probably 2199 Euro in Europe) is a steep price. Edit: Given the lack of real interesting updates in OS X since Leopard and recent iOS versions, I am actually quite interested in Windows 8 and Windows Phone after ~18 years of using Unix-like operating systems and ~5.5 years a M…

I thought 10.6 was so-so - I preferred Leopard's Exposé. I hate 10.7. But 10.8 makes sense again, especially now that 3rd-party apps are catching up with the concepts of 10.7.
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