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Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by sumuyuda »

seabird wrote: post #76
m463 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to rail against market forces, where bigger seems to mean prosperity. The same model of SUV is always bigger as time goes on, and there seems to be no small pickups anymore. I've always wondered if modest people buy used devices and cars, and don't have a say in what new ones are like.

It means prosperity in the sense that the manufacturer is taking you to the cleaners by eliminating smaller low-end and mid-range products to funnel you into higher margin "big" things, for both cars and phones. SUVs being pushed so aggressively the US is because the margins are better and the segment is eternally protected by the Chicken Tax. The insane CAFE leniency for lardassed SUVs/"light trucks" is fought for t…

1000 dollar phone is still stupid. You can easily get a laptop with more functionality for way cheaper.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by whyoh »

mdasen wrote: post #92
montroser wrote: post #24

This is cool as an option. But, why oh why mustn't we have any 5 inch Android phone on the market? It's not as if there's no demand, as evidenced by iPhone SE on the iOS side. The last real Android choice was the Pixel 4a and beyond that, everything has been mega huge.

There isn't that much demand on the Apple side. Apple discontinued the iPhone mini because they weren't selling. The iPhone SE's popularity is driven by price, not the demand for a smaller phone. The iPhone SE is 5% taller and wider than an iPhone mini. People didn't buy the iPhone mini at $100 cheaper than an iPhone. If they were going to settle for a smaller phone, they wanted half-off. It allows Apple to be in the…

>Apple discontinued the iPhone mini because they weren't selling.

I've read somewhere that they sold several millions of them in the US alone. Is that not enough to make a profit?

But I think they could sell it with a slower CPU (cheaper) and it would still be fine. People who want a smaller phone probably have a computer at home.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by jcul »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #197
gaudystead wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may want to look into Graphene OS. It comes with zero Google products preloaded (you can install them after the fact) and permissions controls are great. Ironically, the only hardware it works on though are Google Pixel phones due to their hardware security chip.

I have looked at it. I don't want to deal with that. I would be happy to pay a premium if an OEM supports it. I neither have time nor patience/passion (more of this one) to tinker around anymore. Besides there is this risk of apps not working (esp. banking/finance apps) and then I will be screwed. And I have a Pixel 5 (as a secondary phone) and I am never buying another Google made/sold phone ever.

To be honest, graphene was probably the least tinkering of any ROM I've used.

You can install it directly from chrome on their page and then you're basically done.

If you choose to install play store, you just install it and that's it.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by whyoh »

mainframed wrote: post #36
montroser wrote: post #24

This is cool as an option. But, why oh why mustn't we have any 5 inch Android phone on the market? It's not as if there's no demand, as evidenced by iPhone SE on the iOS side. The last real Android choice was the Pixel 4a and beyond that, everything has been mega huge.

As an owner of a Samsung Galaxy S22, which is not small but seemed to me like the only sane size - feature - price balance on the Android market back then: maybe the reason is battery life? I'm really underwhelmed by the one of the S22. I barely get a day out of it. When I'm travelling with Google Maps, I have to carry a power bank. Maybe current android phones are just optimized so bad in comparison to iPhones? And…

The S22 is notorious for the poor battery life. The S23, for example, is pretty much the same size, faster, and the battery lasts significantly longer.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by jcul »

lotophage wrote: post #21

I'm curious if people actually use the IR in place of their TV remote as in the promo. For me personally, I think the friction of having to fire up an app first would preclude me from ever using it in earnest.

I have the jelly star and I do use this feature. It's useful if the remote is missing and you need to adjust the volume or something.

I aslo used it when I was working away from home and was trying to plug my laptop into a TV HDMI port. I had no remote and couldn't switch the input manually but was able to do it with the phone.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by sulandor »

laurex wrote: post #84

I still use an iPhone SE (original 2016 version), probably the most beautiful phone ever and quite functional, though this year it finally stopped being supported by a lot of apps due to its iOS. Surprisingly, most apps work just fine until they are just removed from availability. (I'm not gaming on it or anything!) It is the perfect size and with no notifications enabled, is dang near ideal as long as you don't need…

same same

still holding onto 1st-gen se because i value my autonomy but want a pocket computer.

galaxy s4mini was even thinner and lighter.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by whyoh »

cosama2 wrote: post #42
montroser wrote: post #24

This is cool as an option. But, why oh why mustn't we have any 5 inch Android phone on the market? It's not as if there's no demand, as evidenced by iPhone SE on the iOS side. The last real Android choice was the Pixel 4a and beyond that, everything has been mega huge.

Comment further down the thread mentioned the upcoming Jelly Star Max. Looks like it is exactly what you look for. https://www.unihertz.com/pages/new?utm_source=twitter&utm_me...

It's going to have a 5" screen, but quite thick at 15mm. A similar (but thinner) size phone is the Qin 3 Ultra.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by sulandor »

SamBam wrote: post #87
MBCook wrote: post #33

I would think this would be difficult to use for most apps. It’s not 2009 anymore. App developers just assume a certain minimum screen size. While layouts are flexible they often just don’t work on smaller screens.

Maybe many people don't need "most apps." I need about 5 apps and a nice camera.

cant upvote enough

though all the superfluous whitespace creeping up makes small screens tedious indeed

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Post by TeMPOraL »

happymellon wrote: post #194
throwaway55110 wrote: post #186

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This is very prevalent in the expat community where I have many friends. I hate it. At least the current AI developments made it possible for messenger apps to transcribe the messages to text (and back, though I haven't seen that feature yet) - we both get what's best for us. And same with voice calls and voicemail - I mostly don't accept calls and let them all go to voicemail. iPhone transcribes what they're saying…

Speech to text doesn't require AI. I've had it on my Google keyboard for a very long time. Its always been accurate too.

In my case, it always been garbage. Speech to text doesn't require AI when you do it like Microsoft did it in the aughts; ever since "new, better", cloud-side techniques came along, the technology got worse, and the only meaningful qualitative improvement I've seen in two decades is in the last two years, with new-generation models which may or may not be backed by LLMs now.
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