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Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

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Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#61
post #9

Guaranteed Security Updates until? Not even mentioned? So it's just e-waste.

I had the Jelly 2 (Android 11). The Kickstarter promised an Android 12 update. Never happend. In fact, it never got any update. (On the official webforum there was talk about one update. You had to download it from a shady download site. There where all sorts of warnings. I don't remember if I tried and it failed or I never tried to update it. Still no good look. They deliver on the hardware but it is fire and forget on the software site.)

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#62
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used LineageOS on a number of devices for a number of years, and had to upgrade to a new device every year due to either performance, bugs, or official support being dropped. Can't tell you the number of various bugs I ran into that completely made it unusable, until the point I just started getting two of every device to be able to have a backup, and be able to do clean version updates. Being able to just get one…

You got unlucky with your devices (having unfortunate hardware compatibility) or the ROM maintainers (being inexperienced or just not good). LOS is really great and rarely has any issues coming from the pure source of the OS.

I can’t even imagine what brands they’re buying where support is dropped that quickly.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#63

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Why not just get a 3.5mm to lightning adaptor? They have knock-off/generic versions at gas stations that cost like 5 dollars and it beats lugging around a whole extra device just to use your headphones

i end up using an adapter (because samsung also arm-twisted me into doing that), but they are typically terrible quality/break, catch on to things, i need to always remember to pack one, and still keep forgetting/losing them. Our overlords at Apple (Samsung promptly followed) decided that we must all switch to airpods, but instead just made it a huge pain for people. Also strange for Samsung whose phones are gigantic…

Last I checked iphones and galaxys were almost identical in size, which models are your talking about?

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#67

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This is not as big a problem as you make it out to be due to the availability of alternative Android distributions. A quick search shows that LineageOS 20 already runs well on this device which means it should be possible to keep it up to date for a long time. I'm using a Samsung SIIIneo from 2014 with LineageOS 18.1 (Android 11) for which LineageOS 20 is available as well while Samsung dropped support at Android 4.4…

I used LineageOS on a number of devices for a number of years, and had to upgrade to a new device every year due to either performance, bugs, or official support being dropped. Can't tell you the number of various bugs I ran into that completely made it unusable, until the point I just started getting two of every device to be able to have a backup, and be able to do clean version updates. Being able to just get one…

I run Lineage on a Pixel 3a xl (no google), and a OnePlus 5 (mind the gapps).

I have found both to be completely stable.

My first Cyanogen phone was an HTC Incredible, and I don't remember any stability problems.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#68
post #6

Part of the problem with this brand is that this "Android 13 Smartphone" will probably stay that forever. Updates are very very minimal. I have their first jelly and it didn't even get the upgrade they promised. Other than that, it's not so bad. Swype-typing makes a small keyboard still useful. But the updates really are the achilles heel here.

Honestly, I don't care about feature upgrades in a device like this, which, invariably, degrade experience, rather than improve it.

I would much rather the industry moved to focus on security upgrades.

Keep the device reasonably updated while it's on sale (either current or previous feature version max), then promise extended support for N years, where any critical security issues are patched, and that's all.

I especially don't need the latest OS features, when 95% of the value is from apps that can be upgraded independently from the OS.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#69
post #57

This is cool as an option. But, why oh why mustn't we have any 5 inch Android phone on the market? It's not as if there's no demand, as evidenced by iPhone SE on the iOS side. The last real Android choice was the Pixel 4a and beyond that, everything has been mega huge.

It's hard to rail against market forces, where bigger seems to mean prosperity. The same model of SUV is always bigger as time goes on, and there seems to be no small pickups anymore. I've always wondered if modest people buy used devices and cars, and don't have a say in what new ones are like.

Old (er) people spend a lot of money. Old(er) people want larger screens and bigger cars because they're easier to overcome physical issues (sight and dexterity).

This is my theory.

Re: Jelly Star – The Smallest Android 13 Smartphone

#70
It's a bit too small, but I like that it's a thing. However, for my own use, I want something in-between. A 4" phone would be ideal.

I'm still confused how there aren't any phones for people who still use a computer as their primary means of accessing the internet. Even for this one, the media review section makes it look like it's "to distract oneself from social media". As if a phone's primary purpose isn't to be a communication device for when you aren't near your computer.

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