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Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Many homes in the US are not build with stone but thin wood. Houses in Europe with stone take some time to heat up. We lived in a 100 year old house in Berlin and it took 2 months until the walls were warm. Also took some months in winter until walls are cold again. [Edit] This is not about insulation but heat capacity.

Modern "stick built" homes in the US are well insulated and actually quite efficient. Stone walls would be a poor choice in most areas in the US due to extreme conditions. As you mention, once a stone house heats up in the summer, that is an incredible amount of thermal mass to cool. Your AC would run non-stop. Similar issue in the winter, super high heating costs in cold regions.

This is not about insulation but heat capacity.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Funny to think about these costs and the health of the national commons from a point of view of the Federal budget. For example, you point out it would cost 2 billion to migrate Houston's above-ground to storm proof below ground. If we could lop off 1/4 of the DoD and intelligence budget of $1T/yr and dedicate it to infrastructure, we could pay for 125 Huston-scale improvement projects per year. And still have the mo…

> Plus the Federal budget is essentially free money, constructed as needed It's amusing and a bit scary that someone thinks the federal budget is essentially free money, constructed as needed.

The US dollar literally is constructed as needed. It's pretty darn close to free thanks to electronic banking.

However, like all magic, using it has severe (and generally predictable) consequences.

Unlike fictional magic, the consequences take 4 years to kick in like clockwork. That, and the US's two term limit meant that presidents get to print money without political consequence. Worst case, they lose the midterms, then run again while blaming the next guy for the problem they created.

Hypothetically, of course.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Hurricane Ike was a category 4 that traveled nearly directly over Houston in 2008. (It wasn't a category four when it passed over, since, like all major storms, they weaken as they move inland.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ike Burying lines, especially in historic areas, is incredibly expensive and not necessarily a panacea either, although it helps. Is it worth it? Realistically, for the millions upon mi…

I think part of the argument is that it’s like that the number of these events will double or trouble, or even become yearly with climate change.

Yes, that's the argument. Of course, some of it remains to be seen, because as of now we're not actually seeing more or more intense storms compared to historical averages (at least that we know about).

Houston has, on average, one large storm event every decade or so, and that hasn't really changed much over the last 100 years. https://www.weather.gov/hgx/major_events

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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What is going on over there? Seems like crazy town. With the geriatrics and corruption, good god it looks dystopian from a rando aussie pov.

Any country looks dystopian from the news. From the outside, your own country seems to have a dystopian liking for government control of speech and the internet. If your daily experience does not align with this perception, consider that Texans might be in exactly the same boat as you, perception-vs-reality-wise.

The attorney general of Texas is openly corrupt and is in the middle of a criminal trial.

Acting like Texas isn’t uniquely shitty requires intentionally forgetting reality.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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To me it's crazy people run so much AC at home. It's like making global warming a worse problem with AC, so it gets hotter and we use more AC. I live in Rome, Italy, we had 40C (104F) degree max temperatures during day, and even at night it doesn't fall below 29C (84) and we survive without AC just fine, not just me but the rest of my family in their houses too, of course it is sometimes uncomfortable, but that's sum…

Here's a comparison of Houston and Rome climates: https://weatherspark.com/compare/y/9247~71779/Comparison-of-... Note the temperature and especially the humidity sections.

I'm commenting on Rome though, my city. Not Houston.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Why is Texas infrastructure so brittle? It’s a wealthy, prosperous state unencumbered by regulation or legacy stuff that tends to cause issues in other states.

Profit does not rise proportionally with costs as reliability increases (i.e. it costs a lot of money to make it more reliable, but you don't get to charge substantially more). The electric company monopoly does not have incentives to spend money to be more reliable. All the downsides of widespread power outage are externalized onto the customers.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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I disagree, and I speak from experience. We've been repeatedly hit by climate-change induced typhoons here (near the SF Bay Area), and hurricane-force gusts hit both of the last two years. Our area looses a lot of roads to mudslides, and of course we have extended power outages. Having said that, the first year, PG&E only delivered one nine of availability last year, and this year, they're closer to two nines. The di…

You lost me at “climate change induced typhoon”. Comparing an “Bay Area typhoon” (very hilly) to low and flat Houston with a direct hit is disingenuous at best.

Don't worry, he saw a clogged storm drain in Pac Heights once, he's got this.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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I disagree, and I speak from experience. We've been repeatedly hit by climate-change induced typhoons here (near the SF Bay Area), and hurricane-force gusts hit both of the last two years. Our area looses a lot of roads to mudslides, and of course we have extended power outages. Having said that, the first year, PG&E only delivered one nine of availability last year, and this year, they're closer to two nines. The di…

You lost me at “climate change induced typhoon”. Comparing an “Bay Area typhoon” (very hilly) to low and flat Houston with a direct hit is disingenuous at best.

The elevation of Houston is _higher_ than the elevation of SF. Yes, there are many hills, and the _max_ elevation is obviously higher, but there are also plenty of low lying areas and areas at sea level.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Why is Texas infrastructure so brittle? It’s a wealthy, prosperous state unencumbered by regulation or legacy stuff that tends to cause issues in other states.

Seems like this was a problem with last mile delivery, which isn't a uniquely Texas problem. Oregon and California have had plenty of major outages due to wind and cold snaps in the last few years as well.

Not true about California. Outages in storms are highly localized. Some rural areas get power turned off but only when fire risk is extreme. There have been no large cities without power for a week like Houston.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Nothing, but migrating to it is very expensive. Centerpoint, the physical electricity provider in Houston, has said it would cost $2.5M per square mile. Houston is 640 square miles. Regulations allow them to claw back costs on the bills. (For example, repairs from past storms are often paid for over the course of several years in the form of a bond that is applied to customers as surcharges) https://www.houstonchroni…

Funny to think about these costs and the health of the national commons from a point of view of the Federal budget. For example, you point out it would cost 2 billion to migrate Houston's above-ground to storm proof below ground. If we could lop off 1/4 of the DoD and intelligence budget of $1T/yr and dedicate it to infrastructure, we could pay for 125 Huston-scale improvement projects per year. And still have the mo…

> For example, you point out it would cost 2 billion to migrate Houston's above-ground to storm proof below ground.

The State of Texas had a budget of $188 billion [1].

In 2023 they projected a surplus of $18 billion [2].

Maybe they can budget it in?

What the federal government versus state governments should pay for is a big can of worms, but I'm not sure why it seems so easy to just look at the DoD budget and says "there's money there let's use that" as if it's not doing anything or it's all waste. If anything (unfortunately) the DoD budget probably needs to be increased quite a bit given the geopolitical challenges we face.

[1]. https://everytexan.org/2023/11/03/the-2024-25-texas-budget-t...

[2] https://abc13.com/texas-legislature-2023-state-budget-surplu...

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