I'm really considering to take this one, but I've would like to consider other alternatives, anyone knows other online c classes?
Learn C The Hard Way by Zed Shaw
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#12I'm really glad to see that C can get in the spotlight even on HN.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always use “let's assume roughly X/hour” as a joke. You don't get paid for your spare time, except in opportunity cost. If someone applies 20 hours of their time at work, then yes, that's pocket change. If they apply 20 hours of their time at home, that's not time that they'd get paid for anyway, so the analogy is as foolish as the claim that every pirated copy of a movie would have been bought were it not for pira…
True, but by working for "roughly X/hour" you've established that the typical exchange rate for your time is roughly X/hour. If I were to ask you to do some work for my during your off time, I would have to pay about X ± X/2 depending on how you guarded your time. So what if someone only values their time at X/4? That's still $200 worth of spare time.
That's fair, if we're continuing a monetary analogy (which I did do).
My spare time is worth happiness/distraction to me. Not money. I will confess that in that particular regard, I may differ from some, or perhaps even most, others.
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#14I just scanned through the free HTML book and this looks definitely a good start for a modern "get started fast" book about C: everything is important about the language seems to be covered. Good work.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always use “let's assume roughly X/hour” as a joke. You don't get paid for your spare time, except in opportunity cost. If someone applies 20 hours of their time at work, then yes, that's pocket change. If they apply 20 hours of their time at home, that's not time that they'd get paid for anyway, so the analogy is as foolish as the claim that every pirated copy of a movie would have been bought were it not for pira…
True, but by working for "roughly X/hour" you've established that the typical exchange rate for your time is roughly X/hour. If I were to ask you to do some work for my during your off time, I would have to pay about X ± X/2 depending on how you guarded your time. So what if someone only values their time at X/4? That's still $200 worth of spare time.
Doesn't make much sense anyway. So you make $40/hr, 40 hours a week. Well there is 168 hours in a week, subtract 40 from that and you have 128 hours those 40 hours must pay for.
As if that wasn't enough you have a lot of expenses that are flat-rate that you must pay regardless of how you spend your time (such as your rent).
All this is further assuming that your goal is to spend everything you make every month. Most probably put away some money to be able to buy a new car, travel etc. (or even just to be able to repair the car when it breaks)
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#16I am working with his learn python the hard way course on udemy and his book and videos have helped me get going
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always use “let's assume roughly X/hour” as a joke. You don't get paid for your spare time, except in opportunity cost. If someone applies 20 hours of their time at work, then yes, that's pocket change. If they apply 20 hours of their time at home, that's not time that they'd get paid for anyway, so the analogy is as foolish as the claim that every pirated copy of a movie would have been bought were it not for pira…
True, but by working for "roughly X/hour" you've established that the typical exchange rate for your time is roughly X/hour. If I were to ask you to do some work for my during your off time, I would have to pay about X ± X/2 depending on how you guarded your time. So what if someone only values their time at X/4? That's still $200 worth of spare time.
Damn. I've totally been ignoring the cost of sleeping. Son of a ....... I better update my personal finance models ... stat!
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much $$ have you spent on lattes reading his free book? Books, videos and course materials don't just happen because we say so. Real people create this stuff.
Zed Shaw has made the book available for free. It's perfectly acceptable to point that out (indeed, it's linked from the udemy summary anyway). If you need more than the book, you can pay for the course. This is why it is labelled a "companion". There is nothing morally bankrupt about using the resource that has been graciously given away for free: it seems evident that Zed Shaw intended the book to be free, so use t…
If the video course were free, what would you be willing to pay for additional course materials? (i.e. the book, exercise solutions, exclusive live sessions, etc.)
I'm not trying to be confrontational here. Online education/coursework/learning needs a pricing structure that makes sense. One that enables thousands of qualified instructors to participate without going broke in the process.
I think I understand Zed's "freemium" model in that context. But I disagree with his approach.
Our local high school district pays some teachers over a $100,000 a year. That's 3,448 students at $29 each -- per year. That's roughly equivalent to the entire student population!
Look for yourself: http://www.familytaxpayers.org/salary.php
Find a district: type in '230' Select 'Cons HSD 230' from the list presented.
There is no disruption in education until there is parity between what Zed is able to make and what these people make.
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#19In case one does not want to spend $29, the free HTML book [1] (currently in beta) is good enough. I have been following along the book, and can vouch for it. It is a great way to learn to code in C. [1] http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ EDIT: By posting the link to the book, I by no means meant that the videos are redundant. I would love it if more people en-roll for Zed's Udemy course and support him.
You can also compile the book into a PDF if you'd like. Zed made the code available so all it takes is the effort involved to install the right LaTeX modules.
Took part of an afternoon to figure out how to build it.
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#20Nevertheless, Zed is helping lots of people out there who is eager to learn coding like me, I could imagine back in the days if you want to learn coding there are tons of resources out there, probably too many, that you don't know which one is good and it cost you money. Now, people like me can always go to his book finish the course and look for what is missing without spending a buck.