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Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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It's so well known it would be easier for you to source your claim. Or you know, you could source the claim yourself. Obviously you didn't bother before posting. When I say dragons fly over the rainbows, I need to source the claim. When I say that the sky is blue, it's you who needs to look it up if you doubt it so much.

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Wasn't talking to you. Was talking to the person I replied to

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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I'm mostly surprised about the free admission of bribery: > However, I soon found that a bottle of Johnie Walker Black Label handed out at particularly frustrating moments made things miraculously happen a lot quicker. Oh how the North Koreans loved their whiskey.

I'm surprised you're surprised. I guess people from countries with fully functional monetary systems don't have an intuitive view how things work where money are essentially worthless. Most communist countries were like this during the centralized and hence highly disfunctional economy. You were paid a wage but essentially could shove it up your ass coze there was little to nothing to buy with it. Which made barter t…

> Non-fungible goods: alcohol, cigarettes and coffee.

Aren’t all of these fungible?

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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The post never mentions a date, but this must have been around 2000-2004, since that is when the UK embassy was established. [1] Some things have probably changed since then. A fascinating read regardless. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_Kingdom,...

The German Wikipedia article ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Botschaft_Pj%C3%B6ngj... ) has some more details. Most interesting: unified Germany initially wasn't interested in diplomatic relations with North Korea, so between 1991 and 2001, the only country actually using the building as an embassy was Sweden (although Germany had a "Schutzmachtvertretung" during this time - not sure what that means, but at…

In case someone cares, the term 'Schutzmachtvertretung' contains three words, Schutz = protection, Macht = Power/Might and Vertretung = Representation.

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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> There were a handful of shops that catered for foreigners. All transactions had to be in Euros as possession of local currency by foreigners was forbidden This stood out to me in the article, as most countries incentivize foreign visitors to use local currencies to boost its strength. However, NK seems to have long ago come to terms it's currency will never hold value, so perhaps they instill this rule to boost the…

Another aspect of it could be that this retards foreigners' capacity to sneak into shops they're not supposed to be in and buy things they're not supposed to buy. Not sure though, as apparently many shops are run pseudo-privately and I imagine any shopkeeper would be happy to accept some foreign currency.

Unless, of course, it's illegal for normal citizens to own foreign currency.

If foreigners can only own foreign currency, and normal citizens can only own local currency, then it makes it a lot harder to bribe the locals!

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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The post never mentions a date, but this must have been around 2000-2004, since that is when the UK embassy was established. [1] Some things have probably changed since then. A fascinating read regardless. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_Kingdom,...

Curious if anyone knows of any more recent descriptions about what life is like in North Korea, like in the last 5-10 years. Most things I've read including this article are decades old. How much have things changed there in terms of technology, food security etc?

This book was published 2009, https://archive.org/details/nothing-to-envy-ordinary-lives-i..., and I can highly recommend it for anyone wanting to know a little about how life might have looked like growing up in North-Korea.

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, it would be more toward security leadership in things like CISO roles or equivalent. Yet if one takes them, they will certainly help.

Again, just in case you're interested in a second take on this, no.

I am intersted in your version of my answer. I don't think picking at elements from my list and just saying "no" is fruitful.

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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> North Korea can take you with whatever justification they feel like and return you as a vegetable. That’s most/all countries (or their embassies) you visit, no? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khash...

A big political enemy of the saudi family that been a pain in their ass (rightly so since they are an evil dictatorship) vs random student that just took a poster as a souvernir. Not the same thing. Anyone can be killed in North Korea. 99,99999999999% of people are not on the saudi familys enemy list.

> assassination by western trade partner VS assassination by isolated country

Not the same thing!!!

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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> A 2014 UN inquiry found evidence for "systematic, widespread and gross human rights violations" and stated that "the gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world" I don't think having access to luxuries detracts from the danger he was in of being in a country where public executions take place for things as minor as 'fortune telling' or watch…

Allegedly, supposedly... About 60 years ago, Hunter Thompson called out these words as propaganda devices that let you say anything about anyone you don't like without taking any responsibility for it. Nothing has changed in the journalistic standards since then.

what are those words?

Re: Three years in North Korea as a foreigner (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The German Wikipedia article ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Botschaft_Pj%C3%B6ngj... ) has some more details. Most interesting: unified Germany initially wasn't interested in diplomatic relations with North Korea, so between 1991 and 2001, the only country actually using the building as an embassy was Sweden (although Germany had a "Schutzmachtvertretung" during this time - not sure what that means, but at…

In case someone cares, the term 'Schutzmachtvertretung' contains three words, Schutz = protection, Macht = Power/Might and Vertretung = Representation.

Yeah, apparently this refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_power - Sweden is currently (or rather, I guess, was before the Covid pandemic) the protecting power for no less than 10 Western states (Australia, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Italy, Norway, Spain, USA) in North Korea. And between 1991 and 2001 they were apparently also the protecting power for Germany.
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