Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
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Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
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Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#2From the article it seems like it clones a lot of the Apple M1 technology. So smart acquisition on Qualcomm's part to get competitive again.
Apple engineers who worked on the Apple M4 should go start another company so Qualcomm can acquire it again for +1B. :). Or better yet, acquired by ARM themselves.
It is likely that as this tech makes it to the smartphone market, Android phones are going to get a major speed boost. They have been so uncompetitive against Apple for a while now.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#3> because there has not been any upstreamed Device Tree for this laptop, we were not able to get a Linux desktop installed
Looking forward to tests of Linux on Arm UEFI ("SystemReady") for laptops based on Qualcomm Oryon.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#4The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#5Get proper Linux support and the RISC-V variant they seemed to be working on and I'll buy the laptop ;-) I have no interest in Windows and even less so on ARM.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#6The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
I think people generally expected larger improvements between iterations. Intel and AMD continue to deliver sizeable performance and efficiency gains every 1-2 years while it feels like the Apple M-series isn't getting comparable gains. It definitely seems like Apple has suffered significant enough brain drain in recent years that they're finding it difficult to iterate on the M1.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#7The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
I think people generally expected larger improvements between iterations. Intel and AMD continue to deliver sizeable performance and efficiency gains every 1-2 years while it feels like the Apple M-series isn't getting comparable gains. It definitely seems like Apple has suffered significant enough brain drain in recent years that they're finding it difficult to iterate on the M1.
Hasn't each gen been like 20-30% performance? Isn't that better than what AMD and Intel have managed?
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#8The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
You're only allowed to be the darling for one year or so. Then you suck again.
Re: Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
#9The M4 is the highest single core CPU in the world and it’s in a ridiculously thin tablet without cooling. I don’t understand where this idea that Apple has lost most of their chip design talent and is in trouble rhetoric is coming from. Apple still makes the world’s most advanced and efficient consumer chips, years after the M1.
I think people generally expected larger improvements between iterations. Intel and AMD continue to deliver sizeable performance and efficiency gains every 1-2 years while it feels like the Apple M-series isn't getting comparable gains. It definitely seems like Apple has suffered significant enough brain drain in recent years that they're finding it difficult to iterate on the M1.
I'm still waiting for chips to compete with the perf/watt ratios and general efficiency of the M-series chips.
Snapdragon X Elite + Windows ARM is getting there, but their GPU perf leaves a lot to be desired.
Is Apple a victim of their own success? Idk, but diminishing returns are a thing you know.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think people generally expected larger improvements between iterations. Intel and AMD continue to deliver sizeable performance and efficiency gains every 1-2 years while it feels like the Apple M-series isn't getting comparable gains. It definitely seems like Apple has suffered significant enough brain drain in recent years that they're finding it difficult to iterate on the M1.
Hasn't each gen been like 20-30% performance? Isn't that better than what AMD and Intel have managed?
Not really? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/testing-apples-m3-pr...
I've been waiting for an upgrade to my M1 and I still haven't seen one worth spending that much money on. I'd rather just sink that into upgrading my Windows tower.