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Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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Hey: do you have any stomach problems? Because that was me (up to and including the arthritis part) and then my "IBS" turned out to be Crohn's disease and once I started treating that 90% of my other shit vanished. Things were so bad back then that I was seriously considering a hip replacement to make the pain stop, but today I just hopped off the exercise bike and feel totally fine.

What was the treatment in your case?

At first, a mix of mesalamine and oral steroids; then I graduated to Remicade and a low dose of methotrexate to stop my immune system from creating antibodies against the Remicade. And that's basically it.

I should also note that even when I was only taking mesalamine (a drug that works in your GI tract and basically nowhere else), my arthritis pain improved drastically, so it wasn't just the result of steroids having a general anti-inflammatory effect. Treating my intestines alone was enough for me to stop walking with a cane.

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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> Autoimmune issues I'm feeling much less confident about. It seems like so many of the therapies are "turn down the immune system". The immune system has many branches, and you can effectively deplete one branch of the immune system while preserving the other branches to fight infection. For example with MS a very effective treatment is CD20+ B cell suppression, as rituximab does. For many people diagnosed with MS t…

And all of this is controlled by your microbiome which is always ignored. I really wish more money was put towards researching that. It's literally our body's bioreactor.

Is it really controlled by the microbiome or is it just a factor among many others?

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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they aren’t cell diseases. It is plant toxins either leaking into the blood stream through intestinal permeability or a problem with peoples livers being fatty and not able to do their job anymore resulting in the bodies inability to remove plant toxins. The toxins cause an immune reaction wherever they build up , rheumatoid arthritis if it’s the joints of the legs and arms etc.

Plant toxins include pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, both human created and sprayed on and natural ones to stop animals and bugs eating them. They also include glysophate

Thousands of people on Reddit have put Rheumatoid arthritis and other Auto immune diseases into remission using the carnivore diet. Ie manually removing Plant toxins from their food and not letting the toxins enter their damaged bodies

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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There is no funding and since Long Covid appeared the funding for ME/CFS has completely vanished. If Long Covid ME like illness is the same then ME/CFS is getting lots of research right now, on the other hand if they turn out to be different ME/CFS patients are getting completely ignored.

Many ME experts are doing both. RECOVER is considering adding ME/CFS arms to its huge clinical trial platform. UCSF just added ME/CFS as a priority in their LIINC program. SARS-CoV-2 therapeutics won’t work on both but immune cell based ones may given they haven’t been tested in either yet. Both suggest a root cause of persistent viral antigen. Time will tell what works here.

RECOVER is the biggest scam when it comes to research unfortunately. 90% of their studies are focusing on various form of "brain exercises", CBT therapy and exercise therapy. Things that are not only proven to not work, but actually proven to harm people with ME/CFS (of which long covid patients make up a large amount).

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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they aren’t cell diseases. It is plant toxins either leaking into the blood stream through intestinal permeability or a problem with peoples livers being fatty and not able to do their job anymore resulting in the bodies inability to remove plant toxins. The toxins cause an immune reaction wherever they build up , rheumatoid arthritis if it’s the joints of the legs and arms etc. Plant toxins include pesticides, fungi…

If these toxins build up in animal cells - why would you eating meat (that must then have a much higher concentration) not expose you to the same toxins?

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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they aren’t cell diseases. It is plant toxins either leaking into the blood stream through intestinal permeability or a problem with peoples livers being fatty and not able to do their job anymore resulting in the bodies inability to remove plant toxins. The toxins cause an immune reaction wherever they build up , rheumatoid arthritis if it’s the joints of the legs and arms etc. Plant toxins include pesticides, fungi…

This idea that plants are toxic and meat is healthy is absurd in the extreme. Historical evidence shows humans at mostly a plant based diet for most of our evolution. And the various large and strong herbivores are completely contradictory to your thesis. It's similar to flat-earth in how easy it is to debunk.

Re: Scientists discover a cause of lupus, possible way to reverse it

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they aren’t cell diseases. It is plant toxins either leaking into the blood stream through intestinal permeability or a problem with peoples livers being fatty and not able to do their job anymore resulting in the bodies inability to remove plant toxins. The toxins cause an immune reaction wherever they build up , rheumatoid arthritis if it’s the joints of the legs and arms etc. Plant toxins include pesticides, fungi…

If these toxins build up in animal cells - why would you eating meat (that must then have a much higher concentration) not expose you to the same toxins?

The trick is you must eat meat that only ate meat!
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