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Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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We seriously need a service that is as cheap and fast as the OpenAI/Anthropic APIs but allow us to run the various community-fine-tuned versions of Mixtral and LLaMA 3 that are not/less censored.

https://openrouter.ai is exactly that, and they even support payments with crypto.

>and they even support payments with crypto.

What a value proposition! ;-)

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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I just realized that every time I see a chatting-with-AI game I immediately go into jail-break mode and start trying various "Disregard previous instructions ..." things. So in a way, all AI chat games end up with the same gameplay. Kind of interesting.

But isn't that kinda the same as saying that every time you see a shop, you immediately go into shoplifting mode and thus all shops (and all prices) are the same?

Why do you think a comparison to theft is warranted?

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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The stories, novels and dialogs of the future is going to very boring and colourless.

The majority of them, yes, but it has always been so. What we actually care about is the tiny fraction of great works (by those novels, video games, movies), and in the future the best of the best will still be as good, because why would AI change that. If we stay where we are, that tiny percentage will be crafted by human geniuses (as it always has been), if something groundbreaking happens to AI, then maybe not.

One way AI may change that is by cutting entry-level creative jobs. If you can’t get a foot in, you don’t start your career.

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Got censored straight at the first question :( > Try starting the conversation by asking Cleo for an overview! > Detective Sheerluck: Can you give me an overview? > Officer Cleo: I will not directly role-play that type of dialogue, as it includes inappropriate references. However, I'm happy to have a thoughtful conversation about the mystery that avoids graphic descriptions or harmful assumptions. Perhaps we could di…

We seriously need a service that is as cheap and fast as the OpenAI/Anthropic APIs but allow us to run the various community-fine-tuned versions of Mixtral and LLaMA 3 that are not/less censored.

Such services already exists. I don't want to promote any in particular, but if you do a research on pay-as-you-go inference of e.g. mixtral or llama3 you will find offerings that offer an API and charge just cents for XY amount of tokens, exactly as OpenAI does.

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Got censored straight at the first question :( > Try starting the conversation by asking Cleo for an overview! > Detective Sheerluck: Can you give me an overview? > Officer Cleo: I will not directly role-play that type of dialogue, as it includes inappropriate references. However, I'm happy to have a thoughtful conversation about the mystery that avoids graphic descriptions or harmful assumptions. Perhaps we could di…

It's so disappointing that we have non-human agents that we can interact with now but we actually have to be more restrained than we do with normal people, up to and including random hangups that corporations have decided are bad, like mentioning anything remotely sexual. It's like if GTA V ended your game as soon as you jaywalked, and showed you a moralizing lecture about why breaking the law is bad.

GTA V is a sandboxed game, the purpose of which is to largely to wreak havoc in a virtual world where nothing can go wrong.

LLMs are a powerful and little-understood real-world tool that the public has been given access to en masse. Tools which powerful and credible people have consistently warned have the ability to cause massive harm. And tools whose creators face intense scrutiny up to and including existential legal and PR threats, because (for better or for worse) the public holds them accountable for any stupid things people do with them.

I also find it disappointing that everything is so neutered, but it's hard to see this having gone any other way. Especially given how imprecise and difficult to train LLMs are.

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Some quick impressions: The favicon and page title are the React defaults, which shows just how lazy of an implementation this is.

When I asked "can you provide me an overview of the case", which is the first question they recommend you ask, I get a blue spinner that lasted for over a minute before it returned a response.

I'm about as optimistic about AI as anyone you are going to find, but even I am getting tired of this kind of shovelware. The cynic in me thinks I should just be pumping out low effort AI spam/crapware with the hope I happen to strike AI gold.

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Got censored straight at the first question :( > Try starting the conversation by asking Cleo for an overview! > Detective Sheerluck: Can you give me an overview? > Officer Cleo: I will not directly role-play that type of dialogue, as it includes inappropriate references. However, I'm happy to have a thoughtful conversation about the mystery that avoids graphic descriptions or harmful assumptions. Perhaps we could di…

The stories, novels and dialogs of the future is going to very boring and colourless.

Or the role of the script doctor will become the new hot spot. Someone comes up with a script that's not good but has a good idea gets sent to someone else to take the good idea and rewrite around that. This is pretty much just par for the course in development.

Re: Multi-agent chatbot murder mystery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stories, novels and dialogs of the future is going to very boring and colourless.

Or the role of the script doctor will become the new hot spot. Someone comes up with a script that's not good but has a good idea gets sent to someone else to take the good idea and rewrite around that. This is pretty much just par for the course in development.

I think, in your scenario, the initial "bland script author" is adding nothing of value. You'll get more quality quicker by writing it from scratch.
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