At first I thought this might be a creation of Zed Shaw (whose Learn Ruby the Hard Way, was the best introduction to that language, back in the day; and Mongrel was great).
I can vouch for "Learn C The Hard Way" as well :)
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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#22> To install Zed on most Linux distributions, run the shell script below.
This is not an acceptable way to install anything on Linux. If you want to target Linux users you can't distribute with a shell script for installation.
I get that the idea is to reduce friction to installation and trying it out, but most Linux users - the ones you want filing bug reports anyway - are ones who will do due diligence and inspect the shell script to see what kind of opinions it makes about how to install the software.
For example, I see that the shell script downloads a tarball and unpacks it to `~/.local`, then tries to mess with my PATH variable.
Well, my local directory is `~/local`. So that's not where I want it. Actually, I would want it in `~/local/zed`, isolated from the rest of the installations in there. Then the PATH variable stuff just creates junk files since I don't use zsh. So I end up having to figure out the URL to the tarball and install it myself.
My point is that if you just listed the download link to the tarball, it would actually be closer to your own goal of reducing installation friction. The shell script is so much more friction because I have to read bash code instead of just clicking a download link.
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#23Zed seems like its gotten a lot of buzz on HN, and its great to see new players in the space. For those who have used it, what are some of the killer features?
For me the "killer feature" is a graphical editor (like VSCode or the Jet Brains editors) but with performance more like vim. I'm also very much enjoying the modal editing, which VSCode lacks.
Wait, Zed is a modal editor? All i've seen is that it has vim mode, which most editors have and i generally find it insufficient.
Granted these days i still prefer Kakoune style modal editing (i use Helix, currently), so not sure i could move back to Vim style anyway. Nonetheless if Zed has real, first class support i'd be interested... but a second class compat layer is not sufficient in my view.
How's it work for you?
edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40929169 this post suggests it's lacking. Which is always the problem to me with emulation :/
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#24Really dislike the one line installer. How is it installing? Flatpak? Adding an apt repo? Manual install? Fortunately docs go into better detail, https://zed.dev/docs/linux I'm on Debian anyway so who am I kidding expecting this to be in apt :D
You can just read the script that you're curling rather than pipe it into sh directly. It seems like it just extracts the binary from a tar.gz and puts it into ~/.local.
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#25At first I thought this might be a creation of Zed Shaw (whose Learn Ruby the Hard Way, was the best introduction to that language, back in the day; and Mongrel was great).
Instead it's a creation of the team who built Atom, Tree-sitter and Electron. Pretty solid resume!
Re: Zed on Linux Is Here
#26I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but:
1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most.
2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down exactly what was wrong but the autocompletions in particular felt much worse. I've never worked on a language server or editor so I don't know what's on zed/VSCode and what's on the TS language server.
Eventually all the little inconveniences wore on me and I switched back to VSCode.
I will probably try it again after a few more releases to see if it feels better.
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#27How to install/activate extensions? I saw that exists a directory called "extensions" in the repository.
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#28Really dislike the one line installer. How is it installing? Flatpak? Adding an apt repo? Manual install? Fortunately docs go into better detail, https://zed.dev/docs/linux I'm on Debian anyway so who am I kidding expecting this to be in apt :D
It's already in the Arch Linux repositories, which is pretty cool: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/zed/
Am I missing something? NixOS has had it since April https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commits/nixos-unstable/pkgs...
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#30I'll have to figure out how to get it on NixOS. Always the challenge with Nix lol.