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Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by dexwiz »

joenot443 wrote: post #29
peripitea wrote: post #21

Are companies hiring enough for this to be viable and to get 20% of first year salary? I thought all of that had died down significantly, but I haven't been following closely.

I’m getting multiple emails a week for web and mobile roles all over the country. Seems to me hiring is back at least for mid-senior level.

Anecdotally seeing similar things. Had a FAANG hiring manager tell me that they over indexed on new grads in the 2010s, and the hiring was now focused on 5-10 years of experience. So basically the same cohorts, just at a different career stage.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by threetonesun »

monkpit wrote: post #24
neilv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The website[1] (not the blog) looks like it was designed using a Bootstrap theme from 10 years ago. It doesn't inspire confidence about the legitimacy of the business. The post is of a somewhat candid, high-information concentration blog post, by a bootstrapped company... and the stereotypical HN response is to criticize them for not using the latest purely stylistic glossy marketing brochure Webrogrammer resume ke…

It looks like they don’t have a designer, which is a smell for sure if you were looking for some indication of how serious the place is. It’s not the choice of framework that makes the difference, it’s the fact that it looks like it was made by 1 lone engineer who is doing their best, but still isn’t a designer.

Using memes as marketing material was more questionable than the design (which I agree is equally uninspiring).

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by tptacek »

monkpit wrote: post #24
neilv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The website[1] (not the blog) looks like it was designed using a Bootstrap theme from 10 years ago. It doesn't inspire confidence about the legitimacy of the business. The post is of a somewhat candid, high-information concentration blog post, by a bootstrapped company... and the stereotypical HN response is to criticize them for not using the latest purely stylistic glossy marketing brochure Webrogrammer resume ke…

It looks like they don’t have a designer, which is a smell for sure if you were looking for some indication of how serious the place is. It’s not the choice of framework that makes the difference, it’s the fact that it looks like it was made by 1 lone engineer who is doing their best, but still isn’t a designer.

No, it isn't.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by griftrejection »

ajb wrote: post #7

Interesting, but the website still does the usual thing of pushing people to the sign-up page without giving much information. If you're pitch is "we are aggressively honest" then an an indication of the jobs available seems like a good idea. Established recruitment firms list them all. I know it's tough establishing a two sided market, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when companies waste my time by inviting me…

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Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by griftrejection »

ajkjk wrote: post #26
banish-m4 wrote: post #3

Triplebyte overhyped their promise by lying to candidates. They told me I "had the highest score they ever saw" on their screening thing. Then, they submitted me as a candidate to Meta without my consent during the middle of the pandemic. (Ironically, it got me a job at Meta but I was laid-off in 2022 due to being remote and new.)

That sounds really frustrating. They did things like that a few other times too, as I recall. Companies burning their goodwill is such a painfully negative thing about the modern world. Like just.. don't do it, even for the money. It's shameful.

What's more shameful is that we've done nothing to make that behavior illegal, at least in the US.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by griftrejection »

noname120 wrote: post #11

The website[1] (not the blog) looks like it was designed using a Bootstrap theme from 10 years ago. It doesn't inspire confidence about the legitimacy of the business. [1] https://www.otherbranch.com/for-engineers

It's true. Everyone knows you can actually only judge a book by its cover.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by sitkack »

dinobones wrote: post #23

The volume and compensation of high paying tech jobs that made all these companies possible doesn’t exist anymore. There was so much value to be captured that these companies could survive on the sidelines just eating the scraps of tech compensation, and those scraps fed them well. Now the scraps are far too small to support a company.

Absolutely not true. Recruiters get between 20-35% of the first year candidate salary. Something like Triplebyte can make hiring better candidates faster, even if it charges the same.

I never used TB, but their model appeared broken. Instead of a tool used by recruiters, they aimed at replacing recruiters.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by dheera »

sitkack wrote: post #37
dinobones wrote: post #23

The volume and compensation of high paying tech jobs that made all these companies possible doesn’t exist anymore. There was so much value to be captured that these companies could survive on the sidelines just eating the scraps of tech compensation, and those scraps fed them well. Now the scraps are far too small to support a company.

Absolutely not true. Recruiters get between 20-35% of the first year candidate salary. Something like Triplebyte can make hiring better candidates faster, even if it charges the same. I never used TB, but their model appeared broken. Instead of a tool used by recruiters, they aimed at replacing recruiters.

If any job exists solely because of an inefficiency in information flow, it is at least partially replaceable by tech that fixes that inefficiency, and given time, that will happen.

I'm stating this more as a sort of universal economic axiom, not taking a hit at recruiters specifically as people. They're nice people, but a lot of jobs are replaceable by tech.

Interviewing is a massive information efficiency problem. Companies don't know if I'm good, I don't know if the company is good, so we spend 8 hours on Zoom calls trying to hash it out, and the resulting signal-to-noise ratio is still extremely low in both directions. The interviewer's rubric doesn't give a shit if I was in physical pain that day and had a brain fart or if my ability to code a binary heap in CoderPad is or isn't representative of my ability to code a real world app in VS Code on a real task; I don't know if the interviewer had a work emergency that made them sound like an asshole even if they usually aren't, etc.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by sitkack »

Meta comment on the post, if you just land on the blog post, there is little to no context to what they solving or what Triplebyte was. One sentence saying, "Triplebyte set out to innovate the ways that highly skilled computer technologists are hired" or something.

Re: Rebooting (something like) early Triplebyte

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Post by sitkack »

dheera wrote: post #38
sitkack wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely not true. Recruiters get between 20-35% of the first year candidate salary. Something like Triplebyte can make hiring better candidates faster, even if it charges the same. I never used TB, but their model appeared broken. Instead of a tool used by recruiters, they aimed at replacing recruiters.

If any job exists solely because of an inefficiency in information flow, it is at least partially replaceable by tech that fixes that inefficiency, and given time, that will happen. I'm stating this more as a sort of universal economic axiom, not taking a hit at recruiters specifically as people. They're nice people, but a lot of jobs are replaceable by tech. Interviewing is a massive information efficiency problem.…

Of course they are, but you can slam your solution into the market and try and fight the whole thing. Or you can slip in as a tool that is effective, eventually anyone can hold the tool, not just a master craftsman.
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