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Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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People with wizard-like skills are out there but typically can't command the salaries they used to. Todays SWEs tend to know far less about how computers operate and how protocols work than in the old days.

The reality is that thanks to those tech wizards, most companies don't need tech wizards to build tech products and most tech workers don't need to know anywhere near as much as you would need to back in the days. The same kind of "I just love to code" tech wizard that builds an amazing service/library/product, overworks itself while letting big companies extract max value out of it and contribute nothing or extremel…

>Every day I think of the Homebrew creator who got rejected by the company that uses his software daily.

Why does this surprise you? Google didn’t even employ the chefs that made the food consumed by the employees daily either.

Just because you made a thing that was useful doesn’t mean you have the skills that Google is looking for.

Homebrew was very useful because Mac osx didn’t have a good package ecosystem for one-liner installs. The tech behind it though wasn’t particularly unique or groundbreaking. So the author’s skill here was finding a market with unmet demand for a free package manager. That’s not what Google was looking for.

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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I actually think - there should be. There are tons of woman who study to become a vet, for small pets. Nobody wants to be a vet for large animals. So, the good grade woman outcompete the boys who want to become vets, thus no vets for cows and other farm animals. The market should not have to put up with your preferences and if it has to it should lower your wage, due to oversupply.

Most large animal vets make substantially less money — I’d guess because ultimately most farm animals are disposable, while some people will pay tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars to keep their pet alive. I bet the large animal vets who work on champion race horses are well-paid, though.

Many farm animals are not disposable. The right bull or horses seman is worth more than your house.

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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The (economic) purpose of Girls in Tech is to create more workers in software so that prices for labor will go down. Given the layoffs of 2022-ongoing, labor costs in tech are dropping enough that interested parties aren't incentivized to increase the supply of labor further.

> so that prices for labor will go down. I don't think that's the reason (it is a side effect though). What makes you think that?

Why else would a buyer invest heavily in increasing the supply?

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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At the risk of posting a reflexive comment, what should we be doing here? It seems like everything has unintended consequences (not on a cost-benefit basis): - Minority affinity groups pull people from majority groups and decrease integration. - Anti-discrimination/sexism/etc. movements often add social barriers to interactions (e.g. things I do within my identity group would be misperceived if done across) - Affirma…

> Affirmative action makes minorities feel like they don't deserve to be there Does it? I see a lot of affirmative action victims saying that it _ought_ to make them feel that way, but I never hear that from affirmative action recipients.

https://youtu.be/LKiBlGDfRU8?t=188

in this video here sabine hossenfelder explains the problem. the statement could be applied to any other marginalized group

"I am against programs or positions that are exclusively for women.I think that treating women differently just reinforces the prejudice that women are less capable than men"

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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In fact, we consider a marriage successful if it ends in the death of one of the partners.

That's certainly a theory that Bluebeard would subscribe to.

Qualifier to the GP poster is not deliberate

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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Unfortunately this is normal, because running a non-profit is hard enough that suitable candidates command high salaries. I was on an NPO board with a similar ratio and we couldn't get it down.

300k isn’t crazy especially in SF that s not going up get you far

Also not considered in that amount is the fact that this person has to pay for benefits (healthcare and such) likely directly from this income. This is insanely low when you really think of that.

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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post #54

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300k isn’t crazy especially in SF that s not going up get you far

Doesn't CEO and non profit operate out of Nashville?

Even so, I'm assuming this isn't like a normal job where you have benefits, if they're paying for all of that out of pocket, the salary makes perfect sense to me.

Re: Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years

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Judging by current distribution of interns, coding is becoming a female dominated field. I think this has more to do with pragmatic mindset of asian parents and less with any DEI efforts. How many other fields:

- Are not dangerous or unreasonably physically strenuous

- Pay good money

- Keep you surrounded by respectable, educated people

- Can be mastered in 4-6 years rather than running risk of getting old while still in college

Not saying it's a negative, those are rational factors. We do need to make sure that young men are also able to become successful and equals of female SWEs.

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