Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years
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Girls in Tech closes its doors after 17 years
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Well, computing is a profession where historically women were not only good at it, they were nearly exclusively occupying the industry.
When pay went up it inverted and that is really the problem. Men colonized computing and pushed women out only when it became a source of good income and respected as a profession.
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every group tries to fight for equality and once thats achieved or close to achieved, they try to fight for an advantage, it is unfortunately rooted in the selfishness of human beings. Women seem to be attending college in greater numbers than men, soon we'll need programs to help men get a boost.
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They don't want the dirty or manual jobs, only the high paying ones. I've seen studies on this before and women tend to go for more social jobs, maybe its upbringing, but I think part of it just there nature.
i don't think women should be discriminated against in whatever profession they want to go to if they have the ability but i also believe men and women are different in terms of interests and women and men will never reach 50-50 parity in engineering type professions.
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Well, computing is a profession where historically women were not only good at it, they were nearly exclusively occupying the industry. When pay went up it inverted and that is really the problem. Men colonized computing and pushed women out only when it became a source of good income and respected as a profession.
Sad to see you downvoted for a comment that's true to history.
The pre personal computer days had an army of women in computing.
The UK had “Steve” Shirley, she built a billionaire dollar tech company in the 1960s https://www.computer.org/publications/tech-news/research/dam...
Growing up it was largely women that taught me how to fly and maintain aircraft, how to set the timing on shot holes to take apart square kilmetres of iron band mesa, to build robots (long before Boston Dynamics), to write exploration geophysics software, serious combinatorics, etc.
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Well, computing is a profession where historically women were not only good at it, they were nearly exclusively occupying the industry. When pay went up it inverted and that is really the problem. Men colonized computing and pushed women out only when it became a source of good income and respected as a profession.
I've heard this before but I read a book called "Computing in the Middle Ages" which was a memoir of a man who worked on the SAGE, LINC and Xerox Parc projects.
According to him, programming especially in the batch era was a highly social and manpower intensive activity with a large community of support staff and operators around the computer. People who wrote the actual instructions did so on coding sheets, which they would hand over to punchcard operators who would punch them out, and then they would be given to computer operators who would feed them to the computer.
The majority of the operations staff in these computing centers were female, but the majority of the people writing the instructions on the coding sheets were male.
The rapid decline of women in computing pretty much corresponds to when a lot of these support roles were going away with the rise of interactive computing.
That being said I've personally met a lot of really excellent female programmers. I do think there is a tendency to steer women out of the industry or into product or planning roles. Based on that book though I think the narrative of "computing used to be mostly female before they were pushed out by spergy males" misunderstands the structure of the early computer industry and how it changed with evolving technology.
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> There's a gender gap in waste disposal and kindergarten teaching, but there's no "Girls in waste disposal" or "Boys in Kindergarten teaching".
* Building a Gender-Balanced Workforce: Supporting Male Teachers — https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/yc/sept2019/building-ge...
* NYC Men Teach — https://nycmenteach.org/
* Men in the Early Years — https://miteyuk.org/
* Women of Waste — https://www.iswa.org/women-of-waste-new/?v=79cba1185463
* Biffa (UK waste management company) outreach to women — https://www.biffa.co.uk/biffa-insights/iwd-biffa-women-waste...
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They don't want the dirty or manual jobs, only the high paying ones. I've seen studies on this before and women tend to go for more social jobs, maybe its upbringing, but I think part of it just there nature.
i don't think women should be discriminated against in whatever profession they want to go to if they have the ability but i also believe men and women are different in terms of interests and women and men will never reach 50-50 parity in engineering type professions.
I actually think - there should be. There are tons of woman who study to become a vet, for small pets. Nobody wants to be a vet for large animals. So, the good grade woman outcompete the boys who want to become vets, thus no vets for cows and other farm animals. The market should not have to put up with your preferences and if it has to it should lower your wage, due to oversupply.