Please oh please add them to German cars sold to USA too. I would really enjoy watching all the BMWs and Mercedes going the speed limit all the time instead of flying past me with plate obscuring devices and never seeing any consequences
Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars
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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars
#12> There will be four ways in which ISA systems will work to slow the vehicle down, and it will be up to the manufacturers to pick which one they want to use. The EU regulations permit a system that can use a cascaded acoustic warning, a cascaded vibrating warning, an accelerator pedal with haptic feedback, or a speed control function in which the speed of the vehicle will be gradually reduced.
> "Even in the case of speed control function, where the car speed will be automatically gently reduced, the system can be smoothly overridden by the driver by pressing the accelerator pedal a little bit deeper," the European Commission adds.
So not speed limiters, but speed warners. Still, given that ebikes and escooters have been limited by legislation to 20-25mph, it only made sense to do the same for the much more obviously dangerous vehicles on the road. I hope we can do the same in the US, or at least make your car annoy you when you speed the way it annoys you when you don't have your seatbelt on.
Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars
#13Hopefully the EU's right to repair allows consumers to fix their cars by removing this malware.
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#14>There will be four ways in which ISA systems will work to slow the vehicle down, and it will be up to the manufacturers to pick which one they want to use. The EU regulations permit a system that can use a cascaded acoustic warning, a cascaded vibrating warning, an accelerator pedal with haptic feedback, or a speed control function in which the speed of the vehicle will be gradually reduced.
This is more like a "speed warner" than a "speed limiter".
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#15While it can be overridden, hopefully this saves many lives. We limit speeds on scooters and e bikes so cars are only fair
I'm almost certain that the Autobahn is inside the EU and it's famous for the very thing this law supposedly limits.
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#16While it can be overridden, hopefully this saves many lives. We limit speeds on scooters and e bikes so cars are only fair
We don't limit the speed of ebikes - we limit the point at which the electric motor cuts off, but there's nothing stopping you from just pedalling faster.
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#17Bit funny how the article states that the systems are unobtrusive as to be essentially useless, which ignores the fact that these systems are defanged to appease entitled speeders.
Governments around the world impose various requirements on vehicle speeds, most notably ebikes being capped at 20mph for "safety reasons". Meanwhile private cars can travel at over 100mph for no apparent reason other than to not upset drivers at the expense of everyone else on the road.
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#18This is terrifying. I routinely cross a bridge with a 30ton weight limit, which my car mistakes for a 30km/h speed limit sign. I would cause an average of 2 accidents per month if I suddenly slowed from 70 to 30 and the people behind me weren't paying attention.
The technology is _not_ there and this won't save lives, potentially it will cause deaths.
(Yes I read the article, this is initially only "for the driver's information" and not (yet) a hard limit.... but it's the first step in a very wrong direction)
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#19Just another data point for the eventual "EU social credit score"
And another nail in the coffin of the EU. Annoying your voters, great way to salvage your sinking popularity.
Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars
#20A number of years back I had a rental car (in Arizona possibly) that had a speed limiter that was at the speed limit--or just above--as I recall and it was incredibly annoying.
What was annoying about it?
Not OP, but I can hazard some guesses:
* Very few people drive the speed limit, so you're now stuck at being the slowest car on the road. (This will still be a problem under this law because new vehicles are the only ones affected.)
* Inaccurate/out of date speed limits.
* Impossible to pass anyone on a two lane road.
* Having the car take over control is very disorienting for a skilled driver who expects the machine to function as an extension of their body. See the number of people who prefer manual transmission and who eschew cruise control.