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Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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Fact checking is not objective, you just need to convince someone that your facts jive with their perception.

There are better and worse ways to do fact checking. Appealing to evidence is more objective than appealing to vibes or appealing to baseless authority. Once solid evidence is in sight then are usually some clean objective takes to be had and some fairly obvious or likely subjective takes that a reasonable viewer might have. The real problems happen when one side objects to what counts as evidence at all or one side…

> Appealing to evidence is more objective

Assuming one's evidence is subjective, and one's judgment of it, and some other things.

> than appealing to vibes or appealing to baseless authority.

"Baseful" authorities are not necessarily objective. In fact, we have massive amounts of evidence that they are very often not.

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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> For another, it’s next to impossible to launch a startup in 2024 without some upfront AI pitch Nitpicking on one specific sentence, but reading that feels so dumb...

It's what got us that awful pin.

They went full waterfall. Never go full waterfall. /jk

I'm aware that the original waterfall paper actually calls for frequent iteration. It reads a lot like the Agile Manifesto actually.

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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Two reasons commonly cited: - The perception that founders with big tech "credentials" stand a better chance of success than those without. The founders of Humane were ex-Apple. - The idea that founders will generally be more successful on their second try, even if their first ended up being a complete trash fire - see Adam Neumann's new venture. This one sounds more reasonable on the surface but I've got no data to…

ex-Apple doesn’t really give much credibility either. For a hardware startup yes but for a AI fact-checking startup? unsure.

Shh dont tell the investors.

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two reasons commonly cited: - The perception that founders with big tech "credentials" stand a better chance of success than those without. The founders of Humane were ex-Apple. - The idea that founders will generally be more successful on their second try, even if their first ended up being a complete trash fire - see Adam Neumann's new venture. This one sounds more reasonable on the surface but I've got no data to…

ex-Apple doesn’t really give much credibility either. For a hardware startup yes but for a AI fact-checking startup? unsure.

That was their foot in the door to the startup scene. Now they are venerable founders with a proven track record of AI-driven solutions /s

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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How do egregiously failed execs continue to get funding and high profile gigs? It's not just with Humane. I've seen this with the Better.com founder, his second failure after UNCLE, and with execs from MSFT Xbox. I can't for the life of me understand how they continue to get opportunities.

And how do I get in on it?

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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I don't know why the title is written the way it is. It's slightly different from the title on the article -- "Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup". The current link title "AI Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup" reads like an AI running the company Humane left to start its own AI powered fact-checking startup. It's very Kafkaesque and funny but maybe a bit inaccurate…

I find the title of the article to be confusing/ambiguous. If you're not familiar with the company, "humane" could easily be read as an adjective here.

Re: Humane execs leave company to found AI fact-checking startup

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I'm curious- what's their strategy for determining what's true? Is it an Orwellian setup where certain media organizations (eg. NYT, Reuters, Wikipedia) are deemed to be an authoritative ministry of truth?

Does it matter what their strategy is? This is vaporware. People consume information through search engines and platforms. If there's a market for fact-checking AI, it'll probably be developed in-house, since all the big companies have in-house tech. The most they can hope for is to grab as large of a bag as they can before this bubble pops, or hope they'll get bought out in a few years.
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