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Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by secondcoming »

freedomben wrote: post #2

Unfortunately, I think ads are going to get worse before they get better. The huge hotness in marketing right now is using AI and the trove of data to write personalized ad copy for every recipient. Right now it's expensive enough that not a ton of people are doing it, and the ones who are are only targeting a small niche of people, but I expect that the economics will improve quickly. Given Microsoft's full dive int…

Personalised Advertising products are likely to be short-lived considering the swathe of Privacy legislation that's out there.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by iamkonstantin »

FragmentShader wrote: post #24
yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

And get confronted with Apple’s version of enshittification? The grass is not as green as it used to be in cupertino world.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by klabb3 »

FragmentShader wrote: post #24
yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

Genuinely curious to what makes it miserable. I mostly love my basic Ubuntu setup (and especially compared to the clown show that is modern Windows), and although I’m a software engineer I am neither particularly good at nor have any interest in tinkering with my Linux setup. It mostly just works (except for distribution of apps outside of the package manager - that sucks!). That said, I’m on desktop - I think anything with batteries and touch interfaces is often more buggy.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by dingnuts »

FragmentShader wrote: post #24
yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

I have to pay my bills today, not whenever the professional software I use gets released on Linux. Also, the Linux experience is so miserable that if Windows were to die, I'd just switch to MacOS tbh.

excuses excuses

spoken like someone who hasn't used Linux in a decade. The experience is much better in Linux than the other OSes these days

If you need to use software in Windows for work that's one thing, but you probably don't need that software on every personal device and your opinion about using Linux is definitely just your opinion

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by jampekka »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #11
freedomben wrote: post #2

Unfortunately, I think ads are going to get worse before they get better. The huge hotness in marketing right now is using AI and the trove of data to write personalized ad copy for every recipient. Right now it's expensive enough that not a ton of people are doing it, and the ones who are are only targeting a small niche of people, but I expect that the economics will improve quickly. Given Microsoft's full dive int…

I'm convinced marketing is one of the most harmful professions to society. Yes, some amount of marketing is important, so people know who you are and what you do. But the number of times our marketing department asked for creepy spyware tracking in order to "better serve our customers" makes me sick to my stomach.

It goes well beyond creepy spyware tracking. The rampant marketing-driven consumerism corrupts the whole culture and society.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by arnaudsm »

0xfeba wrote: post #23
yoyohello13 wrote: post #13

The more people who use Linux, the more software will be available to use. If you are in any way technical, do society a favor and switch to Linux.

You'll know we hit it big when malicious actors start developing more threats against Linux.

Most servers already run gnu/linux, and are juicier targets than the average consumer device. The incentives are already huge.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by itishappy »

InDubioProRubio wrote: post #4
freedomben wrote: post #2

Unfortunately, I think ads are going to get worse before they get better. The huge hotness in marketing right now is using AI and the trove of data to write personalized ad copy for every recipient. Right now it's expensive enough that not a ton of people are doing it, and the ones who are are only targeting a small niche of people, but I expect that the economics will improve quickly. Given Microsoft's full dive int…

The incredible thing is how pain accepting the microsoft user base is. Any other product, people would have switched over or at least trained into alternatives a while ago, just out of spite and to avoid the pain. Why not more people have a linux-vm to alt-tab between, i shall never know. It really shows how far away linux as "desktop" addition, not even replacement really is.

Pain means different things to different people. To date, I've calculated turning off ads in Windows to be less painful than reinstalling a new OS. I've had to find and change settings 3 times in the past 10 or so years, and then 3 times in the past year, but my Windows does not have ads (I also don't use Microsoft aps). This is admittedly galling, but I have a feeling I'd be messing around with Linux settings at a similar or greater rate.

This isn't really an excuse. I've been meaning to get a test install of Linux on my laptop for a while, but I've been putting it off due to the expectation that it will not be a pain-free process to get all my stuff running as I like again.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by whalesalad »

hecanjog wrote: post #8
whalesalad wrote: post #5

Considering retail for the OS is $199 I find it insane the way Microsoft is pushing such a dystopian freemium model on their users. When you buy a new computer with Windows, the manufacturer pays Microsoft for that license too (obj not the same cost as a retail one, but a cost nonetheless) Meanwhile essentially every version of macOS is free (gotta go back a few years to find retail upgrade copies, which are still fa…

MacOS does show advertisements for the iCloud services.

The "ads" on a mac are a drop in the ocean compared to the experience on Windows.

Re: Microsoft's Weather app now shows more ads

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Post by inversetelecine »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #29
dist-epoch wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Europe there is no reason to pay $199. You can buy a second hand Windows 11 Pro license for $10. Office Pro for $25. Despite what many will say, it's completely legal, EU highest court ruled that companies can't forbid the transfer/re-sale of legitimately owned software licenses.

> Office Pro for $25 Really? I’ve seen OEM Windows licenses for about €15 on a German website (IIRC the practice of selling them was specifically declared legal in Germany), but Office went for €50 there.

Not in EU, but I've bought from keysfan and godeal24 a few times and was always satisfied. I would never use it for a business, but for home use it's been just fine.
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