Live data from Hacker News

How Much Has Harvard Really Lost?

huffingtonpost.com

11–12 of 12 posts

Re: How Much Has Harvard Really Lost?

#11
post #2

The article discusses Harvard's investment shift away from American stocks and bonds, into real assets such as timber forests, real estate, and stockpiles of oil. While these assets may have lost even more than US stocks this year, it's not hard to imagine that this strategy still makes sense in the long term. It really depends on whether you think this is simply a cyclical recession in the US or whether there is a r…

> US will continue to decline relative to other nations. If the latter happens, commodities may regain value much faster than US stocks. Somewhat paradoxically, U.S. stocks are likely to do better if the U.S. declines relative to other nations. Very few U.S. stocks make the bulk of money in the U.S. Instead, they tend to make most of their revenues abroad (usually from 30-70% for most S&P 500 companies) and pay most…

Good points. The decline we should be worried about is not in the currency, but in the competitive advantage of the US relative to other countries. If it gets more affordable to do business elsewhere, you'll find fewer and fewer good companies on US financial markets. (Many claim SarbOx has already done significant damage here.) If emerging economies can continue to reduce costs -- by tackling security problems, corruption, red tape, improving education and infrastructure, etc. -- faster than we can, US equities may lose their world-leading position. That's not to say it's a zero-sum game; it's quite possible that all the world's equities markets could do well, and the US could lead without being dominant. But equity investments are more strongly tied to their country of origin than globally traded "real" commodities like timber or oil, so if you think the US might lose some competitive advantage -- like if it got significantly less appealing for valuable workers to immigrate here -- you might want to skip the stock certificates and instead buy the paper they're printed on.

Re: How Much Has Harvard Really Lost?

#12
post #2

The article discusses Harvard's investment shift away from American stocks and bonds, into real assets such as timber forests, real estate, and stockpiles of oil. While these assets may have lost even more than US stocks this year, it's not hard to imagine that this strategy still makes sense in the long term. It really depends on whether you think this is simply a cyclical recession in the US or whether there is a r…

In the long term we are all dead. Or, to quote Keynes again, markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. It's not just a question of whether these real assets will rebound in value within the next few months/years - it's also a matter of how much margin the HMC might need to put up for realized losses. Deleveraging forces you to sell at firesale prices into illiquid markets. The Wall Street firm…

Yes. The article gives the California Public Employees' Retirement System as an example of extreme losses due to over-leveraging. I didn't see anything in the article to suggest that HMC itself was dangerously leveraged, though. Considering the long-term outlook and vast wealth of Harvard, one wouldn't expect it to gamble anywhere near as much as a hot-shot hedge fund, or even as much as a pension fund with an implicit government guarantee. That's just speculation, though; real data would be welcome.
Post reply on HN