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Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by itomato »

faust201 wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to run AI/ML on an existing jira/github large project (k9mail/KDE(gitlab) and show/prove this can be useful/better etc? Thanks

Probably not, from my experience. Certainly not for large installations. There's just too much to glean from a 20 year old Jira (Components, Comments, Issue History, Transitions, Links..) You can build a graph database from all of this (plus the metadata and other contextual stuff, like related code) which is what Atlassian did with their "Teamwork Graph".

Someone else's mystery machine is fine for a start, but if you want to train and test (and validate) your assumptions or do your own experiments, these AI features don't offer much.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by itomato »

zamalek wrote: post #29
faust201 wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to run AI/ML on an existing jira/github large project (k9mail/KDE(gitlab) and show/prove this can be useful/better etc? Thanks

This is a bit of an extreme ask, that's basically an entire product in its own right.

All the data is there, you just need to connect to it with a new class of BI tool. It's coming.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

zamalek wrote: post #28
harshithmul wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your suggestion. You’re absolutely right; we are actively exploring licensing options, including AGPL, to ensure that our product remains protected. We value input from the community and are open to suggestions and assistance in making this decision. Our goal is to prevent unauthorized copying and resale of our product under different names while fostering a collaborative and innovative environment.

While the community may be a good source for ideas, you should retain an attorney. The community is not your lawyer. There's also the BSL. It specifically calls out competitive products. It automatically falls away for code older than a given time to another OSI license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Source_License . Per the Wikipedia article this still has issues: contributors are handing over their work fo…

Using BSL would make their code source-available but it wouldn’t be open-source anymore, unlike AGPL.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by magicalhippo »

harshithmul wrote: post #27
magicalhippo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have several working at support who struggle with writing good issues due to dyslexia, lack of technical knowledge (domain experts) or similar. Was curious if the AI could assist them in a useful way. Sometimes they might poorly explain the problem, which module it pertains to or similar or similar, making it very unclear what exactly the issue is. I was thinking perhaps an AI component that could analyze what the…

That sounds exactly like something which we will be launching next week. We are working on an AI assist which will ask questions while creating issues in aspects like 1. If that can be broken into sub-issues 2. If it lacks information according to a template that's created in association with the label. For example: Label bug: You can explain in the template what is expected (Some deployment information, logs, screen…

Sounds great, will check it out!

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by meiraleal »

darkhorse13 wrote: post #5
karpovv-boris wrote: post #4

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Completely disagree. Their website is fairly unique, and looks really nice and usable. It's a bit "standard" with the gray, but that's fine if that's their branding.

It looks good indeed. Unique isn't the best way to describe it tho.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by zamalek »

itomato wrote: post #32
zamalek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bit of an extreme ask, that's basically an entire product in its own right.

All the data is there, you just need to connect to it with a new class of BI tool. It's coming.

That's missing the point. The root comment is asking for a different product (one that integrates with Jira) than the one offered by the op (one that replaces Jira). The manner in which such a product would exist isn't the concern of my argument.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by kshri24 »

harshithmul wrote: post #10
wanderingmind wrote: post #9

If you are planning to monitise it through SaaS, might be worthwhile to change the license to AGPL from MIT.

Thank you for your suggestion. You’re absolutely right; we are actively exploring licensing options, including AGPL, to ensure that our product remains protected. We value input from the community and are open to suggestions and assistance in making this decision. Our goal is to prevent unauthorized copying and resale of our product under different names while fostering a collaborative and innovative environment.

Do read these two great books by Heather Meeker:

1. Open (Source) for Business: A Practical Guide to Open Source Software Licensing

2. From Project to Profit: How to Build a Business Around Your Open Source Project

This video presentation by her on this topic is really valuable too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck1gJIZ3Lr4

You will then have a really good idea of where to start. As the parent poster said, it is wise to switch to AGPL if you want to build a COSS business.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by satvikpendem »

wanderingmind wrote: post #9

If you are planning to monitise it through SaaS, might be worthwhile to change the license to AGPL from MIT.

AGPL doesn't prevent anyone from taking your code wholesale and hosting the entire thing. They didn't make any changes so they don't have to contribute anything back per AGPL. OP can make any part that interacts with it, such as billing and infrastructure code, closed source as they are the copyright holder and thus do not have to abide by AGPL or any license themselves. If they make every contributor sign a CLA, then even better.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by evantbyrne »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #33
zamalek wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the community may be a good source for ideas, you should retain an attorney. The community is not your lawyer. There's also the BSL. It specifically calls out competitive products. It automatically falls away for code older than a given time to another OSI license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Source_License . Per the Wikipedia article this still has issues: contributors are handing over their work fo…

Using BSL would make their code source-available but it wouldn’t be open-source anymore, unlike AGPL.

The Business Source License allows for redistribution and modification of code. Calling it not open-source because it restricts third-parties from slapping a logo on it and selling licenses seems like a stretch. imo licenses like the BSL are really the direction that open-source should be heading in, because they allow the original author to retain their rights while avoiding exploitation by rando corporations.
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