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Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by harshithmul »

faust201 wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to run AI/ML on an existing jira/github large project (k9mail/KDE(gitlab) and show/prove this can be useful/better etc? Thanks

We haven't yet modularized the AI features of our product. Currently, it's not possible to use the AI features on top of JIRA/GitLab. Our AI capabilities have achieved better accuracy and output because we have more control over the infrastructure and the product's foundations.

Additionally, incorporating agents and managing their workflows require a distinct set of metadata and separate workflows, which we are still in the process of exploring.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by magicalhippo »

harshithmul wrote: post #21
faust201 wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to run AI/ML on an existing jira/github large project (k9mail/KDE(gitlab) and show/prove this can be useful/better etc? Thanks

We haven't yet modularized the AI features of our product. Currently, it's not possible to use the AI features on top of JIRA/GitLab. Our AI capabilities have achieved better accuracy and output because we have more control over the infrastructure and the product's foundations. Additionally, incorporating agents and managing their workflows require a distinct set of metadata and separate workflows, which we are still…

Since one can self-host Tegon, do you have some importers working? That way I could import some Jira issues and see it in action on our own data.

If you have an API to manage issues, that could work as well. Would need that anyway for custom build integration etc.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by harshithmul »

magicalhippo wrote: post #23
harshithmul wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We haven't yet modularized the AI features of our product. Currently, it's not possible to use the AI features on top of JIRA/GitLab. Our AI capabilities have achieved better accuracy and output because we have more control over the infrastructure and the product's foundations. Additionally, incorporating agents and managing their workflows require a distinct set of metadata and separate workflows, which we are still…

Since one can self-host Tegon, do you have some importers working? That way I could import some Jira issues and see it in action on our own data. If you have an API to manage issues, that could work as well. Would need that anyway for custom build integration etc.

We are in the process of building those scripts. As we are working with companies for migration we started to improve these scripts to cover more edge cases. These should be out sometime soon.

Otherwise, we have a public API to do CRUD operations for all important entities (issues, labels etc). We are working to get an openAPI spec once that is out we should have all the APIs added to our https://docs.tegon.ai

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by magicalhippo »

harshithmul wrote: post #24
magicalhippo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since one can self-host Tegon, do you have some importers working? That way I could import some Jira issues and see it in action on our own data. If you have an API to manage issues, that could work as well. Would need that anyway for custom build integration etc.

We are in the process of building those scripts. As we are working with companies for migration we started to improve these scripts to cover more edge cases. These should be out sometime soon. Otherwise, we have a public API to do CRUD operations for all important entities (issues, labels etc). We are working to get an openAPI spec once that is out we should have all the APIs added to our https://docs.tegon.ai

Sounds great, will keep an eye out.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by magicalhippo »

harshithmul wrote: post #3
Daviey wrote: post #2

Thanks for sharing, can you tell us more about the functionality that AI has in your product and what Cohere does for you, above the capability of OpenAI? Ta

Current AI functionalities: 1. AI-generated Titles 2. Smart Delegation 3. Duplicate Detection 4. AI Summarization 5. AI filtering 6. Automated Triaging Cohere: To improve smart delegation, duplicate detection, and automated triaging, we integrate Cohere's advanced NLP capabilities, ensuring more accurate and efficient similar issue searches. We are bringing in more agents to delegate some of the work to them. 1. Code…

We have several working at support who struggle with writing good issues due to dyslexia, lack of technical knowledge (domain experts) or similar.

Was curious if the AI could assist them in a useful way. Sometimes they might poorly explain the problem, which module it pertains to or similar or similar, making it very unclear what exactly the issue is.

I was thinking perhaps an AI component that could analyze what they said and "complain" if the AI detects key information is lacking, or perhaps just re-summarize what they wrote so it becomes more clear when they haven't supplied sufficient information.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

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Post by harshithmul »

magicalhippo wrote: post #26
harshithmul wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Current AI functionalities: 1. AI-generated Titles 2. Smart Delegation 3. Duplicate Detection 4. AI Summarization 5. AI filtering 6. Automated Triaging Cohere: To improve smart delegation, duplicate detection, and automated triaging, we integrate Cohere's advanced NLP capabilities, ensuring more accurate and efficient similar issue searches. We are bringing in more agents to delegate some of the work to them. 1. Code…

We have several working at support who struggle with writing good issues due to dyslexia, lack of technical knowledge (domain experts) or similar. Was curious if the AI could assist them in a useful way. Sometimes they might poorly explain the problem, which module it pertains to or similar or similar, making it very unclear what exactly the issue is. I was thinking perhaps an AI component that could analyze what the…

That sounds exactly like something which we will be launching next week. We are working on an AI assist which will ask questions while creating issues in aspects like

1. If that can be broken into sub-issues

2. If it lacks information according to a template that's created in association with the label. For example: Label bug: You can explain in the template what is expected (Some deployment information, logs, screenshots etc.) and the AI assistant will help in ensuring those contents exist.

We are also exploring if there are more such cases where AI can help. Do let us know your feedback on this once we launch

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

#28

Post by zamalek »

harshithmul wrote: post #10
wanderingmind wrote: post #9

If you are planning to monitise it through SaaS, might be worthwhile to change the license to AGPL from MIT.

Thank you for your suggestion. You’re absolutely right; we are actively exploring licensing options, including AGPL, to ensure that our product remains protected. We value input from the community and are open to suggestions and assistance in making this decision. Our goal is to prevent unauthorized copying and resale of our product under different names while fostering a collaborative and innovative environment.

While the community may be a good source for ideas, you should retain an attorney. The community is not your lawyer.

There's also the BSL. It specifically calls out competitive products. It automatically falls away for code older than a given time to another OSI license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Source_License. Per the Wikipedia article this still has issues: contributors are handing over their work for to you for free for that duration, they can't use their own work for profit.

The AGPL does make your project extremely unattractive to competition, without affecting your contributors. The issue is that it is still possible to compete with you using it, so long as your competition releases all their code (i.e. infra, billing, etc.) under AGPL.

I would personally go for AGPL because it will keep the worst offenders (Amazon, Microsoft) away from your code.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

#29

Post by zamalek »

faust201 wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to run AI/ML on an existing jira/github large project (k9mail/KDE(gitlab) and show/prove this can be useful/better etc? Thanks

This is a bit of an extreme ask, that's basically an entire product in its own right.

Re: Show HN: Tegon: Open-source alternative to Jira, Linear

#30

Post by harshithmul »

zamalek wrote: post #28
harshithmul wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your suggestion. You’re absolutely right; we are actively exploring licensing options, including AGPL, to ensure that our product remains protected. We value input from the community and are open to suggestions and assistance in making this decision. Our goal is to prevent unauthorized copying and resale of our product under different names while fostering a collaborative and innovative environment.

While the community may be a good source for ideas, you should retain an attorney. The community is not your lawyer. There's also the BSL. It specifically calls out competitive products. It automatically falls away for code older than a given time to another OSI license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Source_License . Per the Wikipedia article this still has issues: contributors are handing over their work fo…

Understood, Thank you. Really appreciate all that information.
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