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I'm in a subculture where people mostly don't own televisions (I do watch shows on my laptop, occasionally) but so I have never seen motion smoothing - is there a demo, online, like on youtube or something, that can give me a sense of what you are talking about?
I have tried it, and it is horrible.
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Tell me, mr. Ad-man, what good is an ad network... without an internet connection? I recently got my hands on a "smart TV" for free because the power supply was broken and the replacement the owner had bought did not work. That turned out to be due to the fact that he bought the wrong board so I used parts from both boards to create a working power supply and there I was with a working "TCL 50DP660", this turned out…
Totally off topic, but I have wondered for 30 years where Information Society got “a knife and a fork, a bottle and a cork, that’s the way to spell New York”, because it was clearly intended as a sample or re-creation. Now I’m one step closer.
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Yes that is my favorite part of the apple tv as well, that it adjusts output to the source frames and resolution. As long as you have a good looking panel with nice color you'll never need to get rid of it. 1080 can really look gorgeous even with everything today being 4k
My 2013 Panasonic plasma is still going strong with AppleTV as the primary input source.
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> I cannot fathom being totally okay with manufacturers being able to retroactively change features of a product after you've purchased it and without your consent. I can! It's a thing that presumably I was happy with for some amount of time. Things change. > Would you be okay with your airpods suddenly deciding that they can only pair with sufficiently new apple devices Yes! It's a risk of buying something. I can ev…
Are you okay with a bait and switch executed on a shorter time frame? How about a third party breaking into your house and breaking your things, or is that only alright when the original manufacturer does it?
If I pay for it, I’m OK with it. If I decide I’m not OK with it, I’ll either not buy it or learn my lesson and make a different decision in the future.
> How about a third party breaking into your house and breaking your things, or is that only alright when the original manufacturer does it?
Why don’t you take a wild guess here?
I don't know what this looks like but I probably hate it. It's like the frame interpolation that some TVs had to generate 120p frames from 60p. I actually prefer the original 24p (or 24p double-exposed to 48 like cinema projectors do) for films. What really bugs me are the "Remastered" versions of songs on Spotify that sound like they were produced with today's audience in mind and doesn't sound like the original rec…
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Are you okay with a bait and switch executed on a shorter time frame? How about a third party breaking into your house and breaking your things, or is that only alright when the original manufacturer does it?
> Are you okay with a bait and switch executed on a shorter time frame If I pay for it, I’m OK with it. If I decide I’m not OK with it, I’ll either not buy it or learn my lesson and make a different decision in the future. > How about a third party breaking into your house and breaking your things, or is that only alright when the original manufacturer does it? Why don’t you take a wild guess here?
I don't know what this looks like but I probably hate it. It's like the frame interpolation that some TVs had to generate 120p frames from 60p. I actually prefer the original 24p (or 24p double-exposed to 48 like cinema projectors do) for films. What really bugs me are the "Remastered" versions of songs on Spotify that sound like they were produced with today's audience in mind and doesn't sound like the original rec…
> I don't know what this looks like but I probably hate it. A simple description would be: It makes film movies look like direct-to-video productions, so basically everything looks like a soap opera. Horrible indeed.
Motion smoothing absolutely destroys the look of the motion.
The article says... > If you’re someone who doesn’t notice motion smoothing or doesn’t particularly care about it... This basically is me. It then proceeds to describe a number of things that would be blatantly obvious and asks you to imagine if you couldn't turn them off. Yes, if my Kindle's fonts all went 3x size, I'd both notice and probably care. But this "logic" fails to work with that previously quoted sentence…
No one's asking you to care. Some people wouldn't notice tripled text size, even though it's similarly hard for me to imagine. I usually notice motion interpolation within a second of watching. I also find it to be intolerable. Maybe people like you can come out ahead on the newly reduced prices on these RokuTV's with recently reduced market value.
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There were way more than 10 people who read, commented on, and liked that Verge article. Both your assumptions (that we're an extreme minority, and that Roku thinks that way) seem to be only supported by the conclusion you make from them. All that said, putting the feature in enabled by default and seeing how many people end up disabling it would be how they could be grounded in reality and avoid creating a shitstorm…
Yeah, we are not an extreme minority. My wife - who really doesn’t notice SD vs HD, let alone 4k, if the aspect ratio is correct for the screen - went ape when we got a TV with motion smoothing. I said yeah, I hate that too, give me a few minutes to fix it, believe me I don’t want it.
I'm in a subculture where people mostly don't own televisions (I do watch shows on my laptop, occasionally) but so I have never seen motion smoothing - is there a demo, online, like on youtube or something, that can give me a sense of what you are talking about?
This video isn’t really worth watching in entirety, but it’s one clip with motion smoothing on and off, so you can skip around to get the idea: https://youtu.be/INQrxHREmJ0?si=E5v3L-gZ__BrUHyC This video has a longer explanation: https://youtu.be/62noXbp-l9o?si=aZqIre3sJy2SpOo7