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Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by s1artibartfast »

Super_Jambo wrote: post #58
chongli wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IP-intensive industries contribute 41% of the US GDP and employ 44% of the US workforce [1]. If you abolished IP all of that would go away. How would you replace that? I'm not a fan of IP either but I think it's pretty hard to escape that reality. Big companies like NVIDIA (3T market cap) are almost 100% IP. IP is more-or-less central to the US's economic and security strategy. Without it, the country loses a huge am…

Pay them from general taxation to dig holes and fill them in again with spoons? If you can only succeed because you're government is holding back others at the barrel of a gun do you really deserve to?

Business in physical property/goods also requires the government to hold others back with a barrel of a gun.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by xk_id »

helloworld42024 wrote: post #2

At this point, we need a service that "offers" an 8-bay (with 12TB? 14TB? drives) full with the whole ~80TB Anna's Archive. It's essentially all of human knowledge and to be frank it belongs to no one - rather...everyone. People can store this at their house, keep it offline. Just to have these seeds of knowledge everywhere. ...I suppose LLM's trained on this data, essentially their model weights and tokenization are…

I’d rather copy the whole thing down by hand, than rely on a bullshit generator for my access to knowledge.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by pnw »

dtx1 wrote: post #22
data_maan wrote: post #7

What is the deal with this Njalla hosting service? Is it really so hard to take sites from there down?

It's made by a former piratebay founder. When you buy a domain from them, they act as a middleman and keep legal ownership of the domain thus shielding your PI somewhat from legal enforcement. They claim their hosting is "In secret locations in Sweden". Their LLC is located in Nevis (some tax evasion island). There's also https://1984.hosting/ which runs a similar operation out of iceland.

Saint Kitts and Nevis is a sovereign state and part of the Commonwealth. It's primary business is tourism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Kitts_and_Nevis

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by averageRoyalty »

autoexec wrote: post #54
dtx1 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's made by a former piratebay founder. When you buy a domain from them, they act as a middleman and keep legal ownership of the domain thus shielding your PI somewhat from legal enforcement. They claim their hosting is "In secret locations in Sweden". Their LLC is located in Nevis (some tax evasion island). There's also https://1984.hosting/ which runs a similar operation out of iceland.

Considering I haven't managed to run into malware or phishing sites on either of those providers they seem to be doing something right. Why are these so-called "evil" hosting companies less of a problem for me than namecheap, godaddy, and google?

Because their primary driven is something other than maximising profits.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by freehorse »

This is the most ridiculous lawsuit ever. How is scrapping publicly available data "hacking"? How is less than 2TB of total bandwidth amount to millions of dollars of damage? Something is off here. Maybe there is some other motivation behind this, like drawing some legal representative of Anna's archive out? It makes no sense otherwise. Considering that high ranking officers of OCLC (taking a look over their executives in [0]) seem deeply intertwined with the book industry, it makes sense that it is used as a proxy for other types of interests.

[0] https://www.oclc.org/en/about/leadership.html?cmpcat=md_ab&c...

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by xiiiixi »

tehwebguy wrote: post #56
lynguist wrote: post #10

What a ridiculous claim. They call computer hardware and salaries damage. I want a competent judge to make sure that these are not damages and I wish that Anna’s Archive continues to operate in sensible jurisdiction for the foreseeable future. If I had the means I would donate to them.

Article says nobody is responding as defendant except one individual who has filed a motion to dismiss based on being misidentified. I don’t know the status of that motion though.

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by staplers »

dylan604 wrote: post #44
rvense wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright should expire after like 15 years. Academic publishers should not exist, research - especially publically funded research - should just go straight to the public domain.

Some research is funded through private donations to a specific school, or because the team shopped their project around to find private funding directly. This goes beyond public funding which grays up that public access to the research especially when compared to something like data produced by NASA

  Some research is funded through private donations
Then start a company. Universities shouldn't be R&D departments to skirt corporate laws and taxes.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by bugglebeetle »

xiiiixi wrote: post #66
tehwebguy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Article says nobody is responding as defendant except one individual who has filed a motion to dismiss based on being misidentified. I don’t know the status of that motion though.

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>Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability.

Sounds par for the course with all the kookery and bullshit that somehow passes for “expert” evidence in US courts.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Post by RVuRnvbM2e »

bugglebeetle wrote: post #68
xiiiixi wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>Stylometric analysis shows this to be the same person with a high degree of probability. Sounds par for the course with all the kookery and bullshit that somehow passes for “expert” evidence in US courts.

Yeah they'll have him take a polygraph next.
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