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Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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They're just piling on anything they can regardless of reason. A real damage count would be lost sales due to web scraping, but they don't sell anything. > For example, the organization spent $1,548,693 on upgrades for its hardware infrastructure, and an additional $608,069 for a two-year Cloudflare contract [..] Other costs include the salaries of 34 full-time employees, who were tasked with mitigating the harm caus…

Ask Aaron Swartz

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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What is the deal with this Njalla hosting service? Is it really so hard to take sites from there down?

It's made by a former piratebay founder. When you buy a domain from them, they act as a middleman and keep legal ownership of the domain thus shielding your PI somewhat from legal enforcement. They claim their hosting is "In secret locations in Sweden". Their LLC is located in Nevis (some tax evasion island).

There's also https://1984.hosting/ which runs a similar operation out of iceland.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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post #3

I feel obligated to say my usual "IP is at this point doing more harm than good" spiel here but don't have the time budget to argue it with people today

I've been trying to convince people of this for years. The problem is from my view, that people have the idea of IP being some sort of the American Dream ingrained in their heads that they can't even reason about anything else.

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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post #13

At this point, we need a service that "offers" an 8-bay (with 12TB? 14TB? drives) full with the whole ~80TB Anna's Archive. It's essentially all of human knowledge and to be frank it belongs to no one - rather...everyone. People can store this at their house, keep it offline. Just to have these seeds of knowledge everywhere. ...I suppose LLM's trained on this data, essentially their model weights and tokenization are…

If the content is to be trustworthy then using LLMs to compress it makes no sense.

It's possible to do lossless compression with LLMs, basically using the LLM as a predictor and then storing differences when the LLM would have predicted incorrectly. The incredible Fabrice Bellard actually implemented this idea: https://bellard.org/ts_zip/

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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post #13

At this point, we need a service that "offers" an 8-bay (with 12TB? 14TB? drives) full with the whole ~80TB Anna's Archive. It's essentially all of human knowledge and to be frank it belongs to no one - rather...everyone. People can store this at their house, keep it offline. Just to have these seeds of knowledge everywhere. ...I suppose LLM's trained on this data, essentially their model weights and tokenization are…

If the content is to be trustworthy then using LLMs to compress it makes no sense.

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Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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post #3

I feel obligated to say my usual "IP is at this point doing more harm than good" spiel here but don't have the time budget to argue it with people today

I've been trying to convince people of this for years. The problem is from my view, that people have the idea of IP being some sort of the American Dream ingrained in their heads that they can't even reason about anything else.

What's a suitable replacement?

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is OCLCs added value? They didn't create the data

Useless in my country because there are no libraries. But I can lookup libraries "Near my country" and beyond. I suppose some libraries will allow ebook loans through worldcat. They seem to be more about sharing within us law without directly charging people. Thats why I said positive. Torrent sharing is better, but idk if that will be sustainable

What country has no libraries?

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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They're just piling on anything they can regardless of reason. A real damage count would be lost sales due to web scraping, but they don't sell anything. > For example, the organization spent $1,548,693 on upgrades for its hardware infrastructure, and an additional $608,069 for a two-year Cloudflare contract [..] Other costs include the salaries of 34 full-time employees, who were tasked with mitigating the harm caus…

> Is web scraping now considered a cyberattack? Was it eating their bandwidth even if it was served through Cloudflare? LOL.

We've been tobagonning down the slippery slope of "cyber" damages for a long time now.

Re: Anna's Archive Faces Millions in Damages and a Permanent Injunction

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post #18

At this point, we need a service that "offers" an 8-bay (with 12TB? 14TB? drives) full with the whole ~80TB Anna's Archive. It's essentially all of human knowledge and to be frank it belongs to no one - rather...everyone. People can store this at their house, keep it offline. Just to have these seeds of knowledge everywhere. ...I suppose LLM's trained on this data, essentially their model weights and tokenization are…

You dropped a 0. Anna's Archive is currently 862.4 TB

Yes, too much for one person, but collectively it is possible to keep it alive.

If anyone wishes to help, you can generate a chunk in 1TB units and seed via BitTorrent here:

https://annas-archive.gs/torrents

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