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Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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How much is Apple's market share these days? I thought Android was still the major platform and I didn't think Google would be lying awake at night from this.

Android may have a bigger install base but they also seem to have a much bigger group of "low power users". These are the people such as my step-dad and some of their friends who bought a cheap Android phone as it was the same price as a old style candy bar or flip Nokia but it had a much bigger screen with adjustable text size (superb for their aging eyes) but they do nothing on the phone that would be considered "smart". They call and they text. That is it. Whereas I don't know anybody who would buy an iPhone and then not use all the smart phone features. Hell I know at least 6 people (not conclusive but interesting IMHO) who own Android phones but don't even have a Google account so have never download an app or even opened the web browser or maps built in apps.

With the death of the old mobile phones and the rise of the smart phone someone had to pick up the place of the LCD, with the much lower entry level of Android on dirt cheap hardware it is clear that Android has picked up the crowd of "I just want a phone that makes calls" crowd which I can't see Google making any money out of.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #12
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a dangerous line of thought (there's a saying, "people who forget history are doomed to repeat it"): it is this awesomeness that allowed Google back in 2000 to overthrow the market incumbents at that time, Altavista, Hotbot and so on. Don't underestimate the power of "awesomeness", in search at least a significant number of users are ready to jump ship whenever something better and with less junk appears.

I agree - many people are waiting for Google's replacement. People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now. It's just that people are habituated to use Google's search. You can test this with this tool: http://blekko.com/ws/+/monte Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other…

I still find Google to have much better results than Bing for complicated search, such as a brain dump of a few things about the subject such as a person or film rather than a more structured search.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #12
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a dangerous line of thought (there's a saying, "people who forget history are doomed to repeat it"): it is this awesomeness that allowed Google back in 2000 to overthrow the market incumbents at that time, Altavista, Hotbot and so on. Don't underestimate the power of "awesomeness", in search at least a significant number of users are ready to jump ship whenever something better and with less junk appears.

I agree - many people are waiting for Google's replacement. People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now. It's just that people are habituated to use Google's search. You can test this with this tool: http://blekko.com/ws/+/monte Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other…

I don't trust the results of that website.

Compare: http://blekko.com/ws/c%23+get+custom+attribute+/monte

With: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=c%23+get+custom+attribute

Blekko claims the first google result is "C: Summary for Citigroup, Inc. Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance", while google finds the relevant information.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/27/apple-reclaims-no-1-smartphone...

They used the word global but I had a suspicion the numbers are from NA (or even USA) only. When I searched for their source I found a report claiming to be global that has very different figures for vendor shares. Apple with a 5.2% market share. I know it doesn't translate directly into 5.2% iOS share but it definitely won't be on part with Android as the article reported.

The figures are correct, Apple was briefly the biggest manufacturer of smartphones, in between Nokia and Samsung having that title. 5% is more likely their share of all mobile phones, including non-smartphones.

But if were talking Googles income then the Android vs iOS stats are more relevant qhich are more like 60 vs 20%

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #23
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree - many people are waiting for Google's replacement. People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now. It's just that people are habituated to use Google's search. You can test this with this tool: http://blekko.com/ws/+/monte Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other…

I don't trust the results of that website. Compare: http://blekko.com/ws/c%23+get+custom+attribute+/monte With: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=c%23+get+custom+attribute Blekko claims the first google result is "C: Summary for Citigroup, Inc. Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance", while google finds the relevant information.

That's because Google knows what you want based on their tracking information and previous searches.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #23
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree - many people are waiting for Google's replacement. People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now. It's just that people are habituated to use Google's search. You can test this with this tool: http://blekko.com/ws/+/monte Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other…

I don't trust the results of that website. Compare: http://blekko.com/ws/c%23+get+custom+attribute+/monte With: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=c%23+get+custom+attribute Blekko claims the first google result is "C: Summary for Citigroup, Inc. Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance", while google finds the relevant information.

It cut out the part after the '#' character. You've got results for 'C'. It is a bug. Try other searches without special characters.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't trust the results of that website. Compare: http://blekko.com/ws/c%23+get+custom+attribute+/monte With: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=c%23+get+custom+attribute Blekko claims the first google result is "C: Summary for Citigroup, Inc. Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance", while google finds the relevant information.

That's because Google knows what you want based on their tracking information and previous searches.

Doesn't Bing do this too?

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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post #7
post #3

At one point he states: "Google charges Apple for having Maps loaded onto that Apple hardware. And as I’ve noted before, this is a substantial sum: rather more than Google currently makes from Android for example." but the quote he uses (his own) to support this actually combines search and maps with no indication of the proportion of revenue between the two products: "The figures also suggest that Apple devices such…

To be fair, this is just some random writer at Forbes who doesn't really know what he's talking about to write a totally informed 'article' and is basing his 'article' on some quotes he found and his view of joining the dots. The dots being pretty obvious as least to the Hacker News crowd. So yes, agreed, his connecting of dots come across poorly but it didn't stop him from gathering 38k views.

Agreed. And splitting hairs here, but he's a Forbes contributor, not a writer there. Forbes is using its magazine's name to make its federated/outsourced blog system sound more credible. forbes.com has a lot of blogspam.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

#29
post #12
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a dangerous line of thought (there's a saying, "people who forget history are doomed to repeat it"): it is this awesomeness that allowed Google back in 2000 to overthrow the market incumbents at that time, Altavista, Hotbot and so on. Don't underestimate the power of "awesomeness", in search at least a significant number of users are ready to jump ship whenever something better and with less junk appears.

I agree - many people are waiting for Google's replacement. People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now. It's just that people are habituated to use Google's search. You can test this with this tool: http://blekko.com/ws/+/monte Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other…

"People were laughing at Bing's quality, but it is really on par with Google right now."

This is definitively not the case outside of the US. At least not here in the Scandinavian countries.

Re: Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues

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How much does Google earn from Maps anyway? Remember it was free till last year.

Google advertises in Maps. So even though it is free they are still making money.

You guys are conflating two things. Google starting charging for the Maps API last year. They don't currently run any ads on the Maps API. Apple does not use the Javascript Maps API for their current iOS maps.
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