I don't disagree with many of his points, but to call him over-dramatic would be an understatement. The article doesn't seem to make any attempt at justifying the hook besides "the internet is already over because all things will end". And it's presented as some sort of revelation, written in the most pretentious possible way, and ends with a statement of how different his writing is from "the internet". Some kind of boogeyman compilation of everything wrong with life in a digital world.
The internet is already over (2022)
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Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#202This is an overly wordy article, that I think misses the mark. The internet _as the Western world knows it today_ will not be the same in a few decades. But then again, it's hardly the same today as it was 30 years ago either. A few things affect this: - Advertising. It's everywhere and corrupts every form of media. Content is made to appease advertisers, and web services are built to extract data from users. The int…
> The internet will survive. It will just be very different.
The internet will continue to exist, certainly. However, it does become a more hostile and unpleasant place over time. Because of that, it's much less useful to me than it used to be and that trend doesn't appear to be changing.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s the point of commenting a youtube video, have you ever seen the comments there? Liking a video makes your feed piled up with a semi-relevant crap for a week. Sometimes (increasingly often) I have to dislike an otherwise good video because I don’t want to screw up my recommendations.
Removing it from your watch history might be more effective than disliking.
Even more effective is not using Youtube or similar algorithmic feeds for content discovery.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
> that it would be open and really big. I think that was the aspiration, but nobody realized there were so many people who thought 5G caused corona (and similar lack of thought process) until it was too late.
>so many people who thought 5G caused corona literally nobody thought this, perhaps except a handful of oddballs. If you want to make your case for describing the state of the internet, please avoid nonsense exaggerations like this.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is probably an even worse “platitude”. Most people go with the flow so if you’re immersed in a lot of bigotry, you will probably end up being a bigot eventually. Then it just spreads, especially if you couple the bigotry with humor. Bigotry is tribalism and seems naturally engrained so it’s something you have to actively resist.
> This is probably an even worse “platitude”. Most people go with the flow so if you’re immersed in a lot of wokism, you will probably end up being woke eventually. Then it just spreads, especially if you couple the wokism with humor. Wokism is tribalism and seems naturally engrained so it’s something you have to actively resist. Funny how well a simple word replacement can work.
> This is probably an even worse “platitude”. Most people go with the flow so if you’re immersed in a lot of NASCAR, you will probably end up being A NASCAR FAN eventually. Then it just spreads, especially if you couple the NASCAR with humor. NASCAR is tribalism and seems naturally engrained so it’s something you have to actively resist.
> This is probably an even worse “platitude”. Most people go with the flow so if you’re immersed in a lot of FITNESS, you will probably end up being FIT eventually. Then it just spreads, especially if you couple the FITNESS with humor. FITNESS is tribalism and seems naturally engrained so it’s something you have to actively resist.
> This is probably an even worse “platitude”. Most people go with the flow so if you’re immersed in a lot of CRYPTO, you will probably end up being A CRYPTO-BRO eventually. Then it just spreads, especially if you couple the CRYPTO with humor. CRYPTO is tribalism and seems naturally engrained so it’s something you have to actively resist.
Very deep.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#206My take on declining online social engagement is; a lot of people like to consume online content passively e.g. just reading Facebook posts or watching a YouTube video without actually liking or commenting. Another thing is; increasing number of people came to realize that privacy does matter and they refuse to participate in online dramas that can damage their reputation or harm their mental health.
99% of my social media engagement is on anonymous social media because whatever I do on real-identity social media is either broadcast to everyone I know by the platform (FB, LinkedIn, Twitter), or becomes indexed by search engines, and unfortunately my firstname+lastname is globally unique. In fact I would say this is the singular reason why Facebook declined. I just don't want my 8th grade classmate to see that I l…
> unfortunately my firstname+lastname is globally unique.
This is why I have never used, and will never use, my real world identity on the internet in the decades I've been interacting on it. Instead, I use consistent internet-only identities. It allows me to communicate honestly and openly.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#207My take on declining online social engagement is; a lot of people like to consume online content passively e.g. just reading Facebook posts or watching a YouTube video without actually liking or commenting. Another thing is; increasing number of people came to realize that privacy does matter and they refuse to participate in online dramas that can damage their reputation or harm their mental health.
IMO, it’s due to burnout due to pathological manipulation. Which is also playing out in politics and the media/advertising, and the macroeconomic fed rate situation. They’re all related. Business cycle wise: - it starts out mellow, with lots of positive ROI and few downsides. Few know about it at first. - as awareness grows, so does competition. While there is a ton of room to grow, this isn’t a problem. Growth doesn…
> in 20-30 years, there will be a lot of older folks who are very hard to fool or manipulate.
I doubt this. The entire history of humans indicates otherwise.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
A coworker of mine tried to convince me of this during the pandemic. I guess she realized I was a bit more antic establishment than normal and thought I'd like that hypothesis. It was a small minority, but there were (and are) absolutely people who believed this. They also usually explain it poorly, I think their idea really is that 5G radio signals caused disease but it gets morphed into a claim that 5G somehow crea…
Ok but then how is this relevant? Crazy uncles have existed long before the Internet.
> literally nobody thought this
Well it seems relevant because the comment I replied to was minimizing the number of people who thought 5G may have caused covid to a miniscule number of people. I raised my experience because I only know a small number of people and did in fact know someone in real life who believed this and sent me plenty of links and whitepapers making the same claims.
Is my anecdotal experience statistically significant? Absolutely not. But I also hesitate to believe that the number of people who bought into the idea was so small as to effectively not exist.
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
>literally nobody thought this, perhaps except a handful of oddballs. So not literally nobody?
Given that the original comment implied that the reason we could not have an "open and really big" internet is because of the handful of oddballs that thought 5G towers caused Corona, yes, it might as well be literally nobody.
The number shouldn't matter though. We can have an open and big internet regardless of how many people believe in ideas that seem to be batshit crazy to the average person. Who cares what someone else chooses to think or believe?
Re: The internet is already over (2022)
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think I need to download more memory to handle the whole internet
It's thought of that already; you just keep inserting new disks into drive A:\
Seems feasible: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40702546