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Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#31
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't yet seen any compelling reason to move off of X11. It's been years since I've checked - what's the current state of the art ?

> what's the current state of the art ? Wayland is going to make 2024 the year of Linux on the Desktop! Any day now...

I thought it was already the year of Linux on the Desktop??

Jokes aside if you can avoid anti-cheats (rootkits) DXVK makes a lot of Windows workflows very accessible on Linux.

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#32
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what's the current state of the art ? Wayland is going to make 2024 the year of Linux on the Desktop! Any day now...

I thought it was already the year of Linux on the Desktop?? Jokes aside if you can avoid anti-cheats (rootkits) DXVK makes a lot of Windows workflows very accessible on Linux.

For me, the year of Linux on the Desktop was '94. It's been my main desktop at home ever since, and for wor as well the majority of time - but with some obnoxious detours.

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#35
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what's the current state of the art ? Wayland is going to make 2024 the year of Linux on the Desktop! Any day now...

I thought it was already the year of Linux on the Desktop?? Jokes aside if you can avoid anti-cheats (rootkits) DXVK makes a lot of Windows workflows very accessible on Linux.

> DXVK makes a lot of Windows workflows very accessible on Linux.

And it has achieved that with X11.

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#36

Once you have GPU server side encoding and client GPU decoding all working correctly with NVENC end to end there is nothing like it in terms of speed and performance for remote work. With a reasonable ping latency like 20-30ms and quality link a user on a cheap gaming laptop connected to a decent beefy server with the GPU encoding working can perceive the remote browser window as faster than their local browser.

Any good guides for this?

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#37

Okay, but X11 is deprecated. Is there a modern version?

Oh god, has the "rewrite it in rust" crowd finally learned about wayland?

Is this either rust or wayland? Nope. Memes are fun though.

Though I have no problem with anything being rewritten in rust. It's usually just as fast, and more importantly, freaking modern. Look at `lsd` or `ripgrep`

Python 81.7%

Cython 14.9%

Shell 1.1%

Roff 0.9%

Rich Text Format 0.7%

C++ 0.2%

Other 0.5%

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#38

Okay, but X11 is deprecated. Is there a modern version?

At the risk of threadjacking, I'd still love to have a real conversation about how and why this Wayland thing happened (and is still arguably happening) so badly.

Specifically, how -- again, in LINUX-LAND -- a whole bunch of people decided, "nah, we're going to go ahead and break the HELL OUT OF backwards compatibility this time, even though we pretty much never do this."

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#39
post #7

Okay, but X11 is deprecated. Is there a modern version?

I don't think the existence of Wayland means X11 is deprecated. Lots of people (including myself) would prefer the perfectly working X11 than the feature-incomplete backward-incompatible "modern" wayland

Even funnier, I have a bunch of rando computers and servers, some with friends and family with different distros...and at any given time, I'm not sure which I'm using.

(Which I suppose means that Wayland has matured a lot..finally, but still)

Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11

#40
post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the existence of Wayland means X11 is deprecated. Lots of people (including myself) would prefer the perfectly working X11 than the feature-incomplete backward-incompatible "modern" wayland

It's deprecated by the people who wrote it, and AFAIK no-one else has taken up the task of maintaining it. Doesn't mean you can't use it (I still use it still, thanks to said breakage), but it's not exactly thriving.

Always an odd argument? Sometimes software is just finished.

Shoutout to Openbox

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