Once you have GPU server side encoding and client GPU decoding all working correctly with NVENC end to end there is nothing like it in terms of speed and performance for remote work. With a reasonable ping latency like 20-30ms and quality link a user on a cheap gaming laptop connected to a decent beefy server with the GPU encoding working can perceive the remote browser window as faster than their local browser.
Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
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Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#22I tried Xpra for remote applications some four to five years ago when I migrated from Windows to Linux and needed a Remote Desktop (type) alternative. I stuck with it for a while in advance of numerous other options, until I found NoMachine - which doesn't do remote applications but does do full remote desktop and has the closest 'feel' to being local-machine than anything other than Windows Remote Desktop. I (ironic…
You may want to try x2go. It uses the older NX protocol version 3, while NoMachine is at version 4. It's good enough for my use case, and support remote applications just fine: this is how I use it.
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#23I tried Xpra for remote applications some four to five years ago when I migrated from Windows to Linux and needed a Remote Desktop (type) alternative. I stuck with it for a while in advance of numerous other options, until I found NoMachine - which doesn't do remote applications but does do full remote desktop and has the closest 'feel' to being local-machine than anything other than Windows Remote Desktop. I (ironic…
NICE DCV is a good alternative if you don't mind paying. I've found the image quality, latency and multi-monitor support to be better than NoMachine. You can get a permanent licence for $180.
They are owned by Amazon Web Services.
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#24I tried Xpra for remote applications some four to five years ago when I migrated from Windows to Linux and needed a Remote Desktop (type) alternative. I stuck with it for a while in advance of numerous other options, until I found NoMachine - which doesn't do remote applications but does do full remote desktop and has the closest 'feel' to being local-machine than anything other than Windows Remote Desktop. I (ironic…
xrdp + rdesktop is my current daily driver for this
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#25Okay, but X11 is deprecated. Is there a modern version?
Wayland is still catching up
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's deprecated by the people who wrote it, and AFAIK no-one else has taken up the task of maintaining it. Doesn't mean you can't use it (I still use it still, thanks to said breakage), but it's not exactly thriving.
It's still seeing regular releases. It's split into modules now, but the xorg-server module last had a release in April, I think, with multiple contributors, and at least two people are issuing release announcements. Maybe I'll consider Wayland again in a few years (though, who knows, by then maybe I'll have fallen for the temptation to write my own X server too...), but for now, Xorg works, receiving fixes, and does…
> It's still seeing regular releases.
With very limited scope. There's already hardware out there that will likely never be properly supported by Xorg.
Though Xwayland - and hence a big chunk of Xorg - will, of course, still live a long life.
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#27The first one to dump this into flutter will probably be onto something
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#28I tried Xpra for remote applications some four to five years ago when I migrated from Windows to Linux and needed a Remote Desktop (type) alternative. I stuck with it for a while in advance of numerous other options, until I found NoMachine - which doesn't do remote applications but does do full remote desktop and has the closest 'feel' to being local-machine than anything other than Windows Remote Desktop. I (ironic…
NICE DCV is a good alternative if you don't mind paying. I've found the image quality, latency and multi-monitor support to be better than NoMachine. You can get a permanent licence for $180. https://www.nice-dcv.com They are owned by Amazon Web Services.
NICE DCV is very solid but its licensing and links to AWS pushed me to write a replacement (it's just NVENC over UDP) one bored weekend... will have to OSS it some day.
There's also RustDesk that looks great but I can't say I've used it yet.
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven't yet seen any compelling reason to move off of X11. It's been years since I've checked - what's the current state of the art ?
> what's the current state of the art ? Wayland is going to make 2024 the year of Linux on the Desktop! Any day now...
Yeah, but it is slowly getting better.
Not advocating for 2024 (or 2025) but I still think someday it will, having seen multiple usability and feature improvements. (Not only talking about wayland here)
Re: Xpra: Persistent Remote Applications for X11
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's still seeing regular releases. It's split into modules now, but the xorg-server module last had a release in April, I think, with multiple contributors, and at least two people are issuing release announcements. Maybe I'll consider Wayland again in a few years (though, who knows, by then maybe I'll have fallen for the temptation to write my own X server too...), but for now, Xorg works, receiving fixes, and does…
> It's still seeing regular releases. With very limited scope. There's already hardware out there that will likely never be properly supported by Xorg. Though Xwayland - and hence a big chunk of Xorg - will, of course, still live a long life.
If that affects me one day, maybe I'll care about that. I doubt that'll be a concern until sometimes next decade at the earliest for my use.