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Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by cageface » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 5:17 AM UTC

jackhodkinson wrote: post #7

pbronez wrote: post #3

Cool! Surprised to hear you started with a native UI and pivoted to electron. What was the major blocker there? I recently got frustrated with OpenSCAD and decided to try CadQuery and Build123d. The modeling backend is a big step forward, but the GUI is not nearly as good as OpenSCAD. I managed to get it working via VSCode with a plugin, but I’m dreaming of embedding everything in a dedicated MacOS app so I can jump…

There aren't many great production-ready open-source frameworks for code-editor components in Swift. I assessed quite a few but found that the feature completeness was far from what I needed. I tried to fork [CodeEditSourceEditor]( https://github.com/CodeEditApp/CodeEditSourceEditor ) and add the extra features I wanted, but I think it would have taken me 6-12 months to get it to an acceptable state, meanwhile not sp…

FWIW I've had good experiences with Tauri so far. It's great being able to call back easily into Rust code and I haven't had any real issues with the wrapped web view.

At this point I'd start with Tauri first and only switch to Electron only if I really need something only Chrome supports or if I need to support Linux. I guess the webview story there is not so good.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by dmazzoni » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 6:29 AM UTC

ibash wrote: post #10

Thank you for attempting to use swift first. Electron apps are bloated and overused. Excited to play around with this!

Agreed about Electron apps!

But...a really good code editor is a good example of something that's extremely hard to implement using native text controls, but there are great ones based on web tech.

I wonder if embedding system WebKit on macOS or using something like NeutralinoJS would be a good alternative?

The pro is your app is much smaller and lighter.

The con is that any bugs in your system web control are out of your control, and certain tight integration with web APIs might not be possible.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by omerhac » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 7:00 AM UTC

Great app. A good example why js apps can never be more than OK, and native apps can really rock. Would be amazing if I could use my sublime bindings here

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by benrutter » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 7:09 AM UTC

This looks great! Since jupyter notebooks are used by a lot of people (like scientists, business analysts etc) I think there's a genuine niche for just having a jupyter notebook client for folks to get started with quickly.

Adding something like built in .venv support and even python distribution would be immense (I'm thinking of a dream scenario where installing something like this gives a beginner all the tools to get up and running python notebooks with) any plans for that on the roadmap?

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by speedgoose » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 7:12 AM UTC

omerhac wrote: post #133

Great app. A good example why js apps can never be more than OK, and native apps can really rock. Would be amazing if I could use my sublime bindings here

> it's built with Electron

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by BiteCode_dev » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 7:26 AM UTC

dsp_person wrote: post #55

Anyone else live in a Jupyter QtConsole?

Yes, very underrated tool.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by vanshk7 » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 7:54 AM UTC

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Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by fredoliveira » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 8:16 AM UTC

ashu1461 wrote: post #112

What were your initial thoughts on tradeoffs on making this a vs code extension vs a separate app ?

The post is literally right here.

> I've always craved a more focused and lighter-weight experience when working in a notebook. That's why I created Satyrn.

> It starts up really fast (faster time-to-execution than VS Code or JupyterLab)

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by tomwphillips » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 8:37 AM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #101

s3p wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the approach is a Mac-first app that follows Apple's design language, no?

Yup, that's what "modern" means to me in this context. Thought it was totally clear. It looks like and acts like it was built for Sonoma, not for Sierra.

That didn’t occur to me.

As an IPython/Jupyter user for over a decade and Mac user for two decades, it’s not something I personally care about or an issue I’ve felt.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by floam » Mon, Jul 08, 2024, 8:40 AM UTC

fredoliveira wrote: post #138

ashu1461 wrote: post #112

What were your initial thoughts on tradeoffs on making this a vs code extension vs a separate app ?

The post is literally right here. > I've always craved a more focused and lighter-weight experience when working in a notebook. That's why I created Satyrn. > It starts up really fast (faster time-to-execution than VS Code or JupyterLab)

He did not answer the question in your quote.