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The internet is already over (2022)

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Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by ssl-3 »

peterleiser wrote: post #18
reddalo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> everyone is here I think this is the answer. Once upon a time we were way fewer people, and many interests were shared among those people (because we pretty much were all "geeks"). We've always had trolls, spammers, etc. but it still felt like we were part of a big community. Now everybody is here, and that feeling is no more. It's like moving from a small village or town (where everybody knows each other) to a hug…

And nobody makes Monty Python or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references anymore. I had a boss 15 years ago who had watched all things Star Trek, just like me; Knew all the things. But at one point he mentioned he wasn't really a fan, it was just "required reading, part of the literature". This is an interesting one. There used to be certain things that all nerds knew, and could talk about, use as analogies a…

Back in the day of The Internet of 1994, HHGTTG was only 15 years old.

But today, HHGTTG is very nearly 45 years old.

For how many decades should references to novel fiction persist, do you suppose?

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by Workaccount2 »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #16
_7acn wrote: post #4

I've been using the Internet since the days of Netscape Navigator and 14.4 kbit/s dial-up modems. Maybe it's just that I'm getting older, but I really miss the old Internet. Ironically, it felt less "anonymous" back then, and it was easier to be part of a community — users knew each other. Now, everyone is here, and the quality of content has significantly declined.

I’d like to offer an alternative: people who still write on personal blogs and like to interact with each other. https://ooh.directory is constantly growing if you want to look for things to read. https://kagi.com/smallweb Is a fun alternative way to discover new content. I started a series almost a year ago to help people discover interesting humans and their blogs: https://peopleandblogs.com/ Bearblog has a discove…

If I'm gonna be honest, I never liked blogs. Never liked reading them and never liked the idea of writing one.

Forums were the cornerstone of the old internet and more or less completely extinct today.

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by GuB-42 »

peterleiser wrote: post #18
reddalo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> everyone is here I think this is the answer. Once upon a time we were way fewer people, and many interests were shared among those people (because we pretty much were all "geeks"). We've always had trolls, spammers, etc. but it still felt like we were part of a big community. Now everybody is here, and that feeling is no more. It's like moving from a small village or town (where everybody knows each other) to a hug…

And nobody makes Monty Python or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references anymore. I had a boss 15 years ago who had watched all things Star Trek, just like me; Knew all the things. But at one point he mentioned he wasn't really a fan, it was just "required reading, part of the literature". This is an interesting one. There used to be certain things that all nerds knew, and could talk about, use as analogies a…

Monty Python, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Star Trek are becoming old. These are references from the 70s. I'd say anime took over as the stereotypical geek culture thing. Japanese otaku and western geeks got along. Also fantasy became popular over science fiction, the video game landscape has changed dramatically, and of course, younger geeks grew up with the internet more than with TV. Also, there are series like Stranger Things that are definitely geeky.

Things are moving on, we are just getting old.

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by luzojeda »

samastur wrote: post #20
shoubidouwah wrote: post #2

If Sam Kriss spent two years to write any of his blog posts into a book, he'd be Nietzsche. Still makes for a sparkling bit of thought, easily reread.

No, he wouldn't. The whole thing is all blitz and little substance of someone who seems to be over-read and under-thought. It's best described in his own words: a handful of sugar instead of a meal.

Delight us with your arguments against what the author states in his posts instead of just ad-homineing.

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by 13of40 »

_7acn wrote: post #4

I've been using the Internet since the days of Netscape Navigator and 14.4 kbit/s dial-up modems. Maybe it's just that I'm getting older, but I really miss the old Internet. Ironically, it felt less "anonymous" back then, and it was easier to be part of a community — users knew each other. Now, everyone is here, and the quality of content has significantly declined.

Go back a couple of years and the BBS scene was that times ten. Imagine if everyone in this thread lived within 20 minutes drive of each other, knew each other's real names, and might even recognize each other if they passed on the street. Anyone else feeling too much CRT today? Want to go throw a frisbee around?

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by FpUser »

What a bunch of drivel. Do not even know what to say.

"predictions that the Internet would revolutionise the way society works have proved wildly inaccurate."

To me it fucking wildly accurate. It did revolutonize a lot for me. Yes I know some people would get a heart attack if they could not show to the rest of the world what did they have for breakfast. Not my problem. I only had good from the Internet so far.

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by samastur »

shoubidouwah wrote: post #28
samastur wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, he wouldn't. The whole thing is all blitz and little substance of someone who seems to be over-read and under-thought. It's best described in his own words: a handful of sugar instead of a meal.

It also was how N. saw his thoughts at times. An evidence, disgraced for being explained. And stylistic flamboyance around a theme is hardly foreign to philosophers, this one in particular (any chapter of Zarathustra can be read as a blog post in the same way). I still advocate that style - and being drunk with style - can lead the writer to singularly original and contemporaneous ideas. Language is a dynamic object,…

As someone with sweet-tooth I don't mind the style, but I do think it masks how empty his arguments are and how unsubstantiated. Explanations that aren't really.

I guess our main disagreement is if he has original ideas. I've only read a couple of things he wrote so I'm certainly not in position to have the definitive opinion, but neither of his articles impressed me.

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by KineticLensman »

ssl-3 wrote: post #31
peterleiser wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And nobody makes Monty Python or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references anymore. I had a boss 15 years ago who had watched all things Star Trek, just like me; Knew all the things. But at one point he mentioned he wasn't really a fan, it was just "required reading, part of the literature". This is an interesting one. There used to be certain things that all nerds knew, and could talk about, use as analogies a…

Back in the day of The Internet of 1994 , HHGTTG was only 15 years old. But today, HHGTTG is very nearly 45 years old. For how many decades should references to novel fiction persist, do you suppose?

The TV version was broadcast just over 42 (!) years ago

Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by [deleted] »

_7acn wrote: post #4

I've been using the Internet since the days of Netscape Navigator and 14.4 kbit/s dial-up modems. Maybe it's just that I'm getting older, but I really miss the old Internet. Ironically, it felt less "anonymous" back then, and it was easier to be part of a community — users knew each other. Now, everyone is here, and the quality of content has significantly declined.

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Re: The internet is already over (2022)

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Post by [deleted] »

FpUser wrote: post #36

What a bunch of drivel. Do not even know what to say. "predictions that the Internet would revolutionise the way society works have proved wildly inaccurate." To me it fucking wildly accurate. It did revolutonize a lot for me. Yes I know some people would get a heart attack if they could not show to the rest of the world what did they have for breakfast. Not my problem. I only had good from the Internet so far.

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