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Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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twarge wrote: post #47

This sort of high performance minimalism is precisely what makes the Mac app ecosystem great. Not because you can't write the same thing on other platforms, but because everyone who cares about it has condensed on the Mac platform. Would love to see this adopt the document-based app API and the toolbar API.

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Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by amelius »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #35

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

Package management is a fundamentally hard problem, and it's not all technical.

Nowadays, before I try anything new, I mentally reserve one or two days for the inevitable problems with configuring, compiling and installing. Also, it happens regularly that the cost of trying something turns out to be too high, and I just move on to the next thing.

Of course, sometimes stuff works out of the box, but that is only in a small fraction of cases.

It is sad that it has come to this, and it makes me wonder how we'll cope in a future when software has even more layers of complexity.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by llamaimperative »

behnamoh wrote: post #49
twarge wrote: post #47

This sort of high performance minimalism is precisely what makes the Mac app ecosystem great. Not because you can't write the same thing on other platforms, but because everyone who cares about it has condensed on the Mac platform. Would love to see this adopt the document-based app API and the toolbar API.

> This sort of high performance minimalism is precisely what makes the Mac app ecosystem great. Not because you can't write the same thing on other platforms, but because everyone who cares about it has condensed on the Mac platform. Meh. Most apps like this are built for the Mac because a lot of programmers use Macs. If anything, Apple makes it difficult to develop for macOS because they keep breaking APIs with each…

Pretty sure that’s what they’re saying

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by 29athrowaway »

jackhodkinson wrote: post #43
29athrowaway wrote: post #41

Does it work with Sagemath?

Is this it? https://www.sagemath.org/ This looks like a programming language built on top of Python. Satyrn only supports the Python programming language right now. If you are using this on the regular, I'm curious if you have tried Julia or Mathematica, if so why do you use Sagemath over those alternatives?

There are many reasons to use Sagemath.

It unifies multiple existing open source math libraries and packages. It integrates with Octave, Scilab, Maxima, etc. It also integrates well with LaTeX... you can take results, format them as TeX and also render them.

Its objective is to be a replacement for Maple, Mathematica and MATLAB, which are prohibitively expensive for many people. As such, once it's installed it comes with batteries included and you can easily share workbooks that others can run without falling into a DevOps-like situation.

The DSL that is offers can be more convenient than Python.

There are some interesting quickstart tutorials here https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/prep/quickstart.html

And it was also discussed earlier on HN here, with many comments that are more informed than anything I could say at this moment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23511183

I tried JetBrains DataSpell as a desktop frontend for Sage and the results were not good.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by blindriver »

Can someone explain their views on Jupyter notebooks? As far as I can tell, the instructor/content creators will set up the "notebook" and students can read the notes and click on the "play" button to see it work in action. Is there anything else besides that?

I guess I'm old school and am used to cutting and pasting and running things in my own terminal, so I'm wondering if there are added benefits that I'm not aware of of Jupyter notebooks. It seems to have a very loyal following so I would love to learn their perspective!

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by behnamoh »

llamaimperative wrote: post #54
behnamoh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This sort of high performance minimalism is precisely what makes the Mac app ecosystem great. Not because you can't write the same thing on other platforms, but because everyone who cares about it has condensed on the Mac platform. Meh. Most apps like this are built for the Mac because a lot of programmers use Macs. If anything, Apple makes it difficult to develop for macOS because they keep breaking APIs with each…

Pretty sure that’s what they’re saying

Pretty sure that's not what they're saying.
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