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Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by jackhodkinson »

oli5679 wrote: post #27

I use notebooks the whole time, normally in vs-code and with github copilot setup. I found it quite painful to point it to a couple of environments I have, and confusing how i get it pointing to my gpt4 api keys. Once I did these two I was not sure how to prompt rather than typing a command. Good luck with this, don't mean this in a critical way, just trying to give some feedback of what I think when I first try it.

I'll work on making them easier to configure.

At the moment you press `g` (for generate) while in command-mode to create a "prompt cell". I'll think of ways to make this more obvious.

Appreciate you spending the time to try it out and share your feedback.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by rudedogg »

yboris wrote: post #4

I hope you consider an open source model: code available freely on GitHub & app available for purchase on your website. I was scared about doing it this way, but it worked out for me: https://videohubapp.com/ for pay-what-you-want-$5-minimum for my app, and https://github.com/whyboris/Video-Hub-App git-clone-and-build for the code. I currently sell about 60 copies per month (same average across the last 4 years too).

Nice app, I might give it a try for my video collection.

Would you be willing to share the OS breakdown? I'm primarily interested in macOS and am wondering roughly what % of your sales are for that platform?

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by jackhodkinson »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #30
oli5679 wrote: post #27

I use notebooks the whole time, normally in vs-code and with github copilot setup. I found it quite painful to point it to a couple of environments I have, and confusing how i get it pointing to my gpt4 api keys. Once I did these two I was not sure how to prompt rather than typing a command. Good luck with this, don't mean this in a critical way, just trying to give some feedback of what I think when I first try it.

I also edit my notebooks in vscode. I wouldn't switch to something that doesn't support GitHub copilot, unless completions are much better.

Thanks for your feedback! I'm looking into this. I'd also really like copilot here.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by BaculumMeumEst »

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by nickvazz »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #35

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

Hey, I used to run into the same issue and figured out installing conda, and utilizing its python was the easiest to keep things straight. Once you install conda and can activate your environment, then when using pip, don’t just call `pip install` because your path could be using a different pip than you expect. Instead use `python -m pip install` after activating your conda environment but make sure you’re using the right Python (`which python` & `conda env list`)

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by adammarples »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #35

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

Python packaging etc can be a real pain point. I would suggest not using homebrew for these, in fact uninstall them. For jupiter/torch heavy work, I would install anaconda and then use that exclusively. Best of luck, it can be annoying but follow a good guide online you'll be OK.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by cheptsov »

jackhodkinson wrote: post #24
cheptsov wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That will be interesting. Happy to test and share feedback. Previously, I was a part of the DataSpell and PyCharm team building notebook support. Now working with dstack, where we support dev environments and super interested in remote support.

Thanks! I'll let you know when it's ready. What do you use now to work with remote environments? JupyterLab or VS Code?

Right now, mostly VSCode - mainly because it’s a desktop IDE and it also supports notebooks.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by jackhodkinson »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #35

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

It can be confusing. The key is that you probably have multiple versions of python installed on your computer (that's normal). Secondly, the default "kernel" in Jupyter was probably not the one you used to install torch.

I'd suggest 2 things to help: 1. Try `pyenv` for python version management 2. See this tutorial for how to create a virtual environment and add it as a Jupyter kernel: https://selvamsubbiah.com/run-jupyter-notebook-in-a-virtual-...

Satyrn makes it easier to add virtual environments as a kernel, but you still will need to create the virtual environment and install torch there yourself.

That's a really great point you made about how confusing it is to pip install stuff with `!pip` when working in the notebook. Right now Satyrn does not support the `!` commands, but I will add this soon and try to make it so `!pip` works with the expected virtual environment you are working with.

Re: Show HN: A modern Jupyter client for macOS

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Post by threePointFive »

BaculumMeumEst wrote: post #35

Dude I just started getting into deep learning and have been flabbergasted getting stuff working. I installed jupyter and torch via homebrew. I can use torch fine from programs, or in venvs, but when I try to use torch in a Jupyter notebook it cannot find the module. Is it a different python environment or something?

Jupyter and pytorch can be installed completely as python packages via pip thanks to the modern wheel distribution format. Because of that, I would generally not recommend using an external package manager for project dependencies. I prefer installing python via the Python.org downloads, then creating a dedicated virtual environment where I can pip install any packages. That way I known where all my dependencies are installed, and I can make seperate environments for different Python or library versions.
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