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Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by sitkack »

taligent wrote: post #67
fooyc wrote: post #56

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These are not magic features. You still have to make your app scale. And once you did it, it works as well on dedicated servers. Dedicated servers come with dedicated disks or SSDs, memory, CPUs, network cards. Decent dedicated hosting providers deliver new servers in a few hours. And they too provide load balancing, dns, filers, backups, elastic ips, etc. The only difference between AWS or a decent dedicated servers…

Dedicated providers don't provide SQS, SWF, S3, SimpleDB, RDS, DynamoDB, EMR, Search. Which for me anyway are essential as they are enterprise class, very cheap, managed, scalable solutions. The best combination is a dedicated server for the app server that is close to Amazon.

If Bezos loosened up control, there could be an EXCELLENT secondary market of colocation space directly connected to AWS in all zones. The Mall next to the Mall, still makes the Mall the main attraction. Give me 10GE, infiniband, etc out the back door of an AWS data center and I will give u the world!

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by slig »

akosednar wrote: post #84
slig wrote: post #69

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Can anyone recommend a service/person that can properly install a virtualization service on a Hetzner server?

What virtualization did you need? Proxmox can be installed via the robot interface. Citrix Xen can be installed using a remote install.

I don't really know, thanks for pointing out, I'll google that. I thought it would be wiser to search for a professional to do this. I can maintain my own VPS, but managing a virtualization box seems to be a complete different beast.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by jedberg »

sitkack wrote: post #91
taligent wrote: post #67

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Dedicated providers don't provide SQS, SWF, S3, SimpleDB, RDS, DynamoDB, EMR, Search. Which for me anyway are essential as they are enterprise class, very cheap, managed, scalable solutions. The best combination is a dedicated server for the app server that is close to Amazon.

If Bezos loosened up control, there could be an EXCELLENT secondary market of colocation space directly connected to AWS in all zones. The Mall next to the Mall, still makes the Mall the main attraction. Give me 10GE, infiniband, etc out the back door of an AWS data center and I will give u the world!

They have that already:

http://aws.amazon.com/directconnect/

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by sitkack »

jedberg wrote: post #93
sitkack wrote: post #91

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If Bezos loosened up control, there could be an EXCELLENT secondary market of colocation space directly connected to AWS in all zones. The Mall next to the Mall, still makes the Mall the main attraction. Give me 10GE, infiniband, etc out the back door of an AWS data center and I will give u the world!

They have that already: http://aws.amazon.com/directconnect/

OMG. Seriously. I am going to go make a pitch for VC money. Thankyou.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by shrike »

sitkack wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #93

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They have that already: http://aws.amazon.com/directconnect/

OMG. Seriously. I am going to go make a pitch for VC money. Thankyou.

If you're serious and would like to talk about the ways third-parties can leverage DirectConnect let me know, contact info in profile.

For a great example see http://www.zadarastorage.com/.

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Post by sitkack »

shrike wrote: post #95
sitkack wrote: post #94

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OMG. Seriously. I am going to go make a pitch for VC money. Thankyou.

If you're serious and would like to talk about the ways third-parties can leverage DirectConnect let me know, contact info in profile. For a great example see http://www.zadarastorage.com/ .

Thanks. How often are you in Seattle?

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by lucian1900 »

pkh80 wrote: post #82
sorenbs wrote: post #60

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The single biggest obstacle when using aws is EBS. It offers sub par and unpredictable io, making it near impossible to operate a traditional SQL DB at any significant load. This is the problem that pushed us to explore mongodb two years ago, and i believe this is a major driver for noSQL adoption in startups.

What about using Amazon's built-in database services (RDS, DynamoDB) instead?

Biggest problem with that is the lock-in. Tying technology to provider is not an option for many of us.

Re: Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by fretnoise »

sorenbs wrote: post #59
rehack wrote: post #33

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Looking at it this way, the price difference does look staggering. And I am happy that Hetzner kind of dedicated hosting services will keep EC2 kind of cloud hosting services honest. We moved from a dedicated service to EC2 in 2010. At the time got some 30/40% drop in the hosting cost for the same traffic. As apart from marginally less hosting price, it also allowed us to start some instances in the day time and shut…

The ability to easily clone a server, apply changes, test and eventually put it in production is the number one reason we keep pouring money at aws.

Not sure if you need a "clone" for that. I'm running FreeBSD 9.0 with ZFS on Hetzner. I can do a ZFS snapshot, apply changes, test, and then either commit the changes or rollback to the snapshot.
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