"There’s no good way to refer to 2000-2009, sorry."
I believe this time is called 'the aughts', at least online. I say it in person but I might be the outlier.
Let's stop counting centuries
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Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#282We should also stop talking about decades for the purposes of periodization. For example, the “‘80s” arguably ran from the election of Reagan in 1980 to the appointment of Bush W. by the supreme court in 2000. Politically, economically, and culturally, the “90’s” were an elaboration on the “80’s” (e.g. the deregulation and market reforms of Clintonism just being a whitewashed expansion of what Reagan did).
The nineties clearly started in '89 with the fall of the Berlin wall and consequent "victory" of the cold war, and ended with the dotcom crash in 2000; the cyclical nature of economic growth wasn't bested after all.
Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#283"There’s no good way to refer to 2000-2009, sorry." I believe this time is called 'the aughts', at least online. I say it in person but I might be the outlier.
Fuck that. It's "the 2000s".
Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#284Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#285> there's no good way to write 2000 - 2009 I have heard people use "the aughts" to refer to this time range [1]. I guess if I was trying to be specific about which century one could say "the two thousand aughts" or "the eighteen hundred aughts". But I think in that context i'd be more likely to say "in the first decade of the 1800s" 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aughts
I call them the two thousand zeroes (2000s). Or, when people ask me from which year my car is, I say two thousand zero -- emphasizing the smallest digit.
Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#286Nobody* outside of these circles cares about these questions. And spend hours arguing about.
* You know, these you wierdos call 'normies'
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fuck that. It's "the 2000s".
I would have thought that extends beyond 2009
We don't need to refer to the third millennium as a whole right now, being in the first part of it. And by the time people need to refer to the 2000s, they will no longer have a reason to reference the 2000s.
You can also refer to, in speech, the twenty-hundreds, without ambiguity; I suppose, if you want it more compact in text, you could always write the 20-00s.
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Half one” is archaic English, and common German, for 12:30. Similarly “my 27th year” just sounds archaic to me: I wonder if you went through a bunch of 19th century writing if you’d see ages more often be “Xth year” vs “X-1 years old”. There may be something cultural that caused such a shift, like a change in how math or reading is taught (or even that it’s nearly universally taught, which changes how we think and s…
Isn’t “half one” used as a short form of “half past one” these days, I.e. 01:30? That has been a source of confusion for someone used to the Germanic way.
The Irish like to say "half one" meaning "half past one". In my native timekeeping parlance "half een" means 12h30. Germanic/Dutch origin.
So whenever I talk time with the locals here I repeat the time back in numerical style to avoid confusion.
"The shop opens tomorrow at half ten".
"Thanks, store opens at nine thirty. See you then."
"No..."
Re: Let's stop counting centuries
#289We reset them every time a religious figure comes along anyway.
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I don't think it is a mistake for Lua. The convention to zero-index arrays is not sacrosanct, it's just the way older languages did it (due to implementation details) and thus how people continue to do it. But it's very counter-intuitive, and I think it's fair game for new languages to challenge assumptions that we hold because we're used to past languages.
It's not sacrosanct but by the time Lua was created it was very clearly the right choice.
It is the best choice, but the difference is mostly in working manually with slices and offsets and array windows, for indexing and iterating they are mostly the same with maybe a small benefit for mathy notation (the reason why Julia is 1 indexed)