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Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

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Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

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Article claims that ATACMS have been highly effective, but all 5 missiles launched at Crimea recently were shot down.

As usual, everything is completely unclear in this stalemate war where both sides regularly claim overwhelming successes yet nothing has changed for 2 years.

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

#32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it’s easier to build something new than guess how a black box you don’t have access to works (short of spying on the manufacturing facility). I’m sure Russian missile technology has at least somewhat kept up.

It absolutely has not kept up. ATACMs are 30 years old. Russia just doesn’t have anything like it.

Only 250, 500, 1000, 1500 and 3000kg bombs with hacked-in winds and some navigation to hit you with 10-30m precision.

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

#33
This sounds like propaganda positioning mainly for their internal consumption. ”Look how we quickly deciphered this tricky American technology, it’s just another 3 days and Kiev is ours. And it has a quadruple safety system, how silly of those Americans! Let’s laugh at them together!”

This a mid-80s technology and if they really just discovered something important and valuable about the technology, they would keep their mouths shut. If they put it out as a press release, it’s precisely because they didn’t discover anything new.

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it’s easier to build something new than guess how a black box you don’t have access to works (short of spying on the manufacturing facility). I’m sure Russian missile technology has at least somewhat kept up.

It absolutely has not kept up. ATACMs are 30 years old. Russia just doesn’t have anything like it.

Russia struggles to shoot down ATACMs, even with their most advanced SAMS, but they do have road mobile versions of Iskander which is pretty similar. They are just bigger and twice the cost.

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not correct. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/m...

> 65 designated as small businesses I find it amusing Lockheed Martin cares about small business arms component suppliers

It is not about “caring” it is about legal requirements. The government sometimes requires procurement from small business.

e.g. https://www.acquisition.gov/far/part-19#FAR_Subpart_19_2

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

#38
post #31

Article claims that ATACMS have been highly effective, but all 5 missiles launched at Crimea recently were shot down. As usual, everything is completely unclear in this stalemate war where both sides regularly claim overwhelming successes yet nothing has changed for 2 years.

> As usual, everything is completely unclear

Its only completely unclear if you think that the words of a dictatorship is equally trustworthy as a democracy plus the journalism of the rest of the free world.

Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS

#39
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Dang they’re only 30 years behind us now.

The US Army announced that the first PrSM batch has been delivered in December 2023.

Operational testing is expected in 2024, with low-rate initial production, full-rate production, and initial capability testing expected in 2025, according to the Government Accountability Office’s 2023 Weapons Systems Annual Assessment.

A total of 110 PrSMs are expected to be procured in fiscal 2024 and 190 in fiscal 2025

It's fairly ridiculous to claim that ATACMS M57(?) last produced a few years to decade ago which are still our best-in-class available for operational use until ~2025+ are "30 years" old tech. The number of PrSMs we'll have by end of next year would last us about 24 hours in a great power war.

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2024/03/07/lockheed-precision...

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