Dang they’re only 30 years behind us now.
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Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
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#22Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS. It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies.
>It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies. This is Zed propaganda/fake news , a soldier can't put a missile in his pocket and go home and exchange it for alcohol. I think the main concern is Ukrainians that are loyal to Kremlin an…
What about tank?
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-soldier-defect-steal-tank-r....
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#23Confusing headline. A few points inside: • Analyzing the missile’s maneuverability will determine which anti-aircraft missiles it can evade. • They might advise on disrupting the missile’s communication or disabling its GPS. • This analysis would help the RF military quickly detect launch sites and missile locations.
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#24Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS. It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies.
Oh no, not our state of the art[1] missiles getting figured out[2] while defending an allied democratic state against an imperial despot!
[1] SOTA as of 1991
[2] According to Kremlin propaganda
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#25Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS. It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies.
I can’t find a claim in the article that they have an intact one.
They get ones in various states of brokenness because Ukraine throws them towards them. For example, https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-atacms-attack-luha... says “The source said the footage showed a "Ukrainian ATACMS strike, with 4 ATACMS, including one dud, hitting a Russian training area in Mozhnyakivka, Luhansk Oblast."”
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not correct. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/m...
> 65 designated as small businesses I find it amusing Lockheed Martin cares about small business arms component suppliers
I figure that’s because you’re unaware of how ludicrously complex and distributed the arms manufacturing industry is?
Lockheed et al are primarily systems integrators. They have sprawling networks of vendors that they’re orchestrating to produce “their” weapon systems.
Re: Russia Claims Breakthrough With ATACMS
#27Would be interesting to know how they got a intact ATACMS. It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies.
If the US permitted ATACMS to be used in this theater, you can be 100% sure they know the Russians already have an ATACMS. So this is just propaganda.
They already have the replacement for ATACMS starting production so I don't think they are super concerned hiding a 35yr old missile
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not correct. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/m...
> 65 designated as small businesses I find it amusing Lockheed Martin cares about small business arms component suppliers
Most of those small businesses are owned by the sons and daughters of major family-owned contractors so they can get the designations. It's a farce.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It was clear from the beginning that every weapon system used in Ukraine could and probably would land on the black market, that’s why Israel didn’t provide any own weapon system fearing it would land in the hands of their enemies. This is Zed propaganda/fake news , a soldier can't put a missile in his pocket and go home and exchange it for alcohol. I think the main concern is Ukrainians that are loyal to Kremlin an…
What about tank? https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-soldier-defect-steal-tank-r... .
Given how many tanks Ukrainian farmers stole from Russian soldiers, this would not surprise me greatly.
That said, the end of the first paragraph is "Russian state media reported on Thursday" — even after the ink is dry on the ultimate settlement of the peace negotiations that have not yet started, we won't know for sure how many stories like this are propaganda.