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Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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> HAS TO BE A BOOLEAN VALUE! How we can have a world where this statement exists, and anyone is bullish about LLMs? The lack of precision is appalling. I can see how a gpt-4o can be fun for toy projects, but can you really build meaningful real-world applications with this nonsense?

Yes, I have built many. Also, have you met any humans? What about their lack of precision?

OMG have you forgotten why we got up to our asses in computers in the first place??

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand the downvotes. Chairman of the federal reserve stated that jobs are overstated. https://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/FOMCprescon...

Here’s what the chairman of the federal reserve actually stated about payroll numbers: > there’s an argument that they may be a bit overstated Not one, not two, but three qualifiers[1] that you left out of your retelling. [1] “there’s an argument,” “may be,” and “a bit”

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Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s what the chairman of the federal reserve actually stated about payroll numbers: > there’s an argument that they may be a bit overstated Not one, not two, but three qualifiers[1] that you left out of your retelling. [1] “there’s an argument,” “may be,” and “a bit”

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Don't take it personally. The fact he called it out is noteworthy.

At the same time, many have called it a terrible measure of employment for decades.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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I'm just waiting out React, using my own much cleaner SPA framework for the last 10 years that's only about 5k LOC and avoids a lot of debouncing and fragmentation issues. From that three.js diagram, it looks like React should turn into a red giant at any moment. Can't wait.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

#126
post #105

> HAS TO BE A BOOLEAN VALUE! How we can have a world where this statement exists, and anyone is bullish about LLMs? The lack of precision is appalling. I can see how a gpt-4o can be fun for toy projects, but can you really build meaningful real-world applications with this nonsense?

Yes, I have built many. Also, have you met any humans? What about their lack of precision?

Ah right, humans are notoriously wonderful communicators and seldom have issues sharing ideas or making contracts with each other.

Once bank of america and every other banking app hooks up one of these to my accounts, i better not have to dispute a charge with "HAS TO BE FRAUD, REALLY!"

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

#127

I'm just waiting out React, using my own much cleaner SPA framework for the last 10 years that's only about 5k LOC and avoids a lot of debouncing and fragmentation issues. From that three.js diagram, it looks like React should turn into a red giant at any moment. Can't wait.

React has already jumped the shark, people just haven't realized it yet. The backlash will be big. I think most people will jump to Preact or Vue.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is getting more and more apparent that BLS has been cooking jobs numbers.

I don’t understand the downvotes. Chairman of the federal reserve stated that jobs are overstated. https://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/FOMCprescon...

You got downvoted for saying that BLS is intentionally lying about jobs numbers. That’s what “cooking” means in this context and it is a big accusation.

The Fed chair’s statement you cite doesn’t support it. He’s just saying that the jobs numbers may not be perfectly representing the actual job market. That is not exactly news; it’s a very hard thing to measure. He’s not accusing the BLS of lying.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

#129

The irony of using a chatbot to gain insight into the current problems with the job market

Are you saying you think chat bots are the current problem with the job market?

Maybe you can ask ChatGPT to analyze his comment for you.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're a growing B2B company in Norway. We struggled for years to fill in-person positions. We've been at least 2-3 devs short for the past 6+ years. That is, until December last year. Then it was like a flood gate had opened up. Suddenly we had tons of candidates to try to select from. I knew things were bad over in bay area and such, but I didn't expect it to hit the market over the pond here so quickly and abruptly…

It is getting more and more apparent that BLS has been cooking jobs numbers.

It is more nuanced than that. The BLS and ADP jobs report numbers sometimes diverge significantly. This is explainable by differences in how the data is sourced and modeled.

Roughly, BLS accurately reflects government employment and then extrapolates to the private sector using a census model that can be several years old. ADP is private sector data and doesn’t reflect government employment. They are essentially sampling disjoint employment pools which leads to some known artifacts.

Sometimes there are large spasms of government job growth through expansion of spending and jobs programs when there is no matching growth in the private sector and the private sector may actually be declining (as seen in ADP data), yet BLS will extrapolate that the private sector must have similarly grown based on the government growth data. Similarly, ADP is generally considered a reasonably accurate model of private sector job growth but doesn’t account for government employment even when it is substantial. ADP can significantly exceed BLS in boom markets.

A heuristic that has been around forever for tracking “productive employment” is that the job market is good when (ADP - BLS) is a positive number and bad when it is negative. Currently, this heuristic is tracking at something like -100k to -150k, which indicates a poor job market.

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