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Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by mrguyorama »

langcss wrote: post #287
sandworm101 wrote: post #219

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>> just rent a boat and gave it a try? As someone who once worked tangentially in search and rescue, please do not even consider this. The ocean is a serious thing, doubly so at night. Unless you are renting a boat large enough to come with its own staff, please do not just head over the horizon simply to see the stars. And fyi, the stars at sea move as the boat you stand on moves. They are brighter, but also more bl…

Would a simple cruise ship ticket do it? Or be too lit up at night?

Just drive an hour away from your nearest city, to the "rural" parts of your state. That's all you need to see a gorgeous night sky. You will see a beautiful sky even just a mile or so outside of a small town of 10k people.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by dredmorbius »

harry8 wrote: post #385
throw4847285 wrote: post #25

When I went to Chile I was about to undertake a cross-country move across the US. Everybody I spoke to in Santiago couldn't imagine a country where you can drive a massive distance like that and move from one major metropolis to another. At the time, I thought they were just reflecting on the fact that Chile is a country where 40% of all people live in one metro area, so there isn't another huge metro area to move to…

City size is all definitional. My first ever look at the states was out the window of a plane flying to NYC from the Bahamas at night. Straight up the east coast. Mind blowing. To my eyes it was one enormous city without any meaningful separation all the way. I was expecting to be surprised by the scale of the usa and yet it was way beyond what i could imagine. Others won’t share that definition.

"BosWash" was the term E.F. Schumacher used for the east-coast conurbanation, in 1973. Boston-New York-Philadelphia-Baltimore-Washington. In Small is Beautiful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Is_Beautiful>

It's sprawled more since.

Apparently the term was coined by Herman Kahn in 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash>

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by cthalupa »

TylerE wrote: post #424
pooper wrote: post #388

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Just out of curiosity, how far is far enough? As a thought experiment, would a shinkansen running every six minutes change this?

I think it's less about distance and more about culture. DC and Baltimore are vastly different in culture, recreational activities, industries, demographics, etc. People don't live downtown in one and work in the other. The commute would kill you. Average income in DC is nearly double what it is in Baltimore. Like, imagine SF and Oakland, but with an extra 30 miles in between.

> DC and Baltimore are vastly different in culture, recreational activities, industries, demographics, etc. People don't live downtown in one and work in the other. The commute would kill you. Average income in DC is nearly double what it is in Baltimore.

Culture, recreational activities, demographics, etc. vary quite a bit in other "twin city" type situations as well. Dallas and Fort Worth are about as culturally different as you can get at that distance, and of course people don't live downtown in one and work in the other - people are making a very specific choice with very specific tradeoffs when it comes to living in a downtown area in general, and those don't make sense if you're not explicitly spending most of your time in that area. Income is about the only thing that doesn't hold true in the Texas and Minnesota examples listed elsewhere in the comments, and DC has some conditions fairly specific to it that cause that.

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Post by RoyalHenOil »

fullstop wrote: post #61
throwup238 wrote: post #3

My key takeaway from this article is that the best place to go see the Milky Way is deep in the Amazon rainforest… where the tree cover is nearly 100% and there isn’t a single road for a hundred miles. That’s a neat collection of graphics. I’m curious how bespoke the creation process is for each graphic or if this is something everyone just does in ArcGis or similar. That last graphic about the Western US being the o…

> My key takeaway from this article is that the best place to go see the Milky Way is deep in the Amazon rainforest… where the tree cover is nearly 100% and there isn’t a single road for a hundred miles. Check out Cherry Springs State Park in Pennsylvania: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Springs_State_Park

You can see a brighter part of the Milky Way in the Southern hemisphere than you can in the Northern hemisphere.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by syngrog66 »

mcmoor wrote: post #293
syngrog66 wrote: post #89

many nation shapes don't make any sense. add in the wildly disconnected/schizophrenic sovereign territory of some countries (US and Russia among exemplars) and I've learned one must simply turn one's brain off when analyzing them. Its a circus.

It starts to make sense once I see nations as collections of big cities holding arbitrary (terrain may matter here) amount of "wastelands" between them. In general, no country would generate from those wastelands so it make sense that it's arbitrarily exchange between big cities surrounding them.

good mental model, agreed

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Post by shiroiushi »

oldmariner wrote: post #408
shiroiushi wrote: post #353

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>Can't see the pictures due to login required :-( Works for me (without login). I'm not sure why, it could be uBlock Origin or Privacy Badger maybe.

I'm running uBlock Origin, and don't care to disable it, oh well.

Well if you're running uBO and still need to login to see the picture, then uBO isn't helping avoid the login obviously. I'm running Chrome with uBO and Privacy Badger and a few other extensions, so you might want to try PB.

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Post by beacon294 »

pyinstallwoes wrote: post #368
idontwantthis wrote: post #171

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And the real history in 1493 by Charles C. Mann. Samurai were documented as guards on galleons brought to Mexico. It needs to be a movie.

Interesting. I’ve had a pet research project that had a lot of anomalous cultural data points pointing into ancient Japanese pollination in places where many would be surprised by today’s “standard history.” It seems there’s deep connections across South America to Japan.

Is there any available information about this?

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Post by pooper »

TylerE wrote: post #424
pooper wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of curiosity, how far is far enough? As a thought experiment, would a shinkansen running every six minutes change this?

I think it's less about distance and more about culture. DC and Baltimore are vastly different in culture, recreational activities, industries, demographics, etc. People don't live downtown in one and work in the other. The commute would kill you. Average income in DC is nearly double what it is in Baltimore. Like, imagine SF and Oakland, but with an extra 30 miles in between.

> SF and Oakland

I don't have a link but I remember reading an article/Blog post linked here on hn where a software developer was in San Francisco one evening, saw the cops arresting someone, went to say something, got arrested himself and they held him over a long weekend or something in terrible conditions, and the police officers said some terrible things like the person he arrested was overpaid and the officer had to live in Oakland or something.

I've never been to SF/Oakland but this is one of the first thing I think of when the place is mentioned. How is the employee to blame for structural/ societal issues. What kind of idiot dumps their frustration on just some passer by?

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by jfkfif »

pyinstallwoes wrote: post #370
nine_k wrote: post #223

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Rather, go to Atacama, in Chile. It's a desert with pretty transparent air and little to no clouds, far from anywhere, and easier to traverse than a forest. It's also rather closer to the South pole, so not as hot as Amazon.

How’s the insect situation?

In the desert? It’s the driest place in the world
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