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Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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Surprised to see that a lot of people experience lucid dreams. Are there any solid techniques to trigger them?

Lots. The internet is full of them. Most center around making a habit of periodically doing a "reality check" throughout the day, like reading a word from a note and then re-reading it to check whether it changed or not. I carried a note saying "Wake up!" in the pocket and after a few days of maybe a dozen checks a day, the check (like all daily habits) occurred in a dream. The realization when the inevitable discrepancy is discovered is pretty amazing, because it's so completely unexpected and has such deep implications for the experience of the moment. It's definitely worth experimenting with this stuff.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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I frequently have lucid dreams, in that I'm entirely aware of that fact that I'm dreaming while in the dream. What I find interesting, however, is that if I have a dream I forgot to study for my test, or I'm naked at school because I left my clothes somewhere else, or the school play starts tonight and I haven't memorized a single line... the fact that I know I'm dreaming doesn't help at all . Because the problem is…

I’ve explored it in my 30s and it wasn’t like you described. Once I’m aware, I can change the plot by soft transition, remove the eerie elements, somewhat control flights, etc. But not too much because something monitors “glitches the matrix” and disconnects me for cheating. Not that I didn’t know who I am or what is or isn’t absurd, but thinking about it long enough wakes me up. I believe your lucidness is not too d…

> soft transition

This completely. I learned early on to not get excited, and to not immediately do the things I want to do, e.g. fly at breakneak speed into space, but gently learn to hover and then build speed and to undetail my surroundings so that a change in speed won't be too jarring that I wake up.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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I usually fall asleep fast, sleep through the night and wake up without any recollection of dreaming. I guess it’s usually a good thing, but it feels like im missing this whole thing a lot of other people experience.

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I've been thinking about the flip side of this, the incomprehensible waking life.

For me, daily life is an unending series of setbacks, negative reinforcement loops and disappointments. I know going into nearly all endeavors that they will end in some kind of failure, but decide to be brave and enter them anyway. I understand that this is the opposite of manifestation, and that I am creating self-fulfilling prophecies. But feel that a neural net would create a model of reality that matches my lived experience of suffering, so there's a basis in fact here. That this is truly all there is unless something changes.

A small example: I decided to go on the Bacon app to see what walk-on gigs are available in my city to raise some quick cash. There are 2: garbage man and warehouse worker.

Now, I knew going in that the odds were grim, and that the gigs would be things that nobody wants to do. Had I gone in with a positive mindset, and imagined fun afternoons helping people set up for events or something, is that what I would have received? I just don't know. I've experienced both, but an overwhelming percentage of the time, the negative outcome matches the prediction of my negative mindset.

Another small example: the other day I helped an acquaintance with handyman work for $100 for an afternoon, but got a traffic ticket on the way home that skimmed away 2/3 of what I had earned.

It was an uncanny reflection of my experience of hustling, similar to movies like The Pursuit of Happyness. Two steps forward and one step back. Another day older and deeper in debt. No win until the end - but the epiphany never comes.

Where i'm going with this is that what we think of as "the real world" is the dream. Or in my case, the nightmare, or at the very least the night terror.

Whereas in our dreams, we can be anything and do anything. Not only that, our subconscious provides rich plot lines far more creative than what our ego comes up with as it co-creates this 3D realm. I often wonder if the point of daily suffering is actually to dream in the spirit world where source consciousness originated.

Except in my case, my dreams are mostly night terrors as well, spilled over from the suffering of my lived experience. I know why, it has to do with sleep apnea, and living a sober life after decades of self-medicating, and finally doing shadow work in middle age. But I just wish that the sun would rise on this long night of the soul, because my basic beliefs in hope for a better tomorrow are growing more tattered with every news cycle and seeing the very worst in humanity expressed in the most powerful and influential people, who are unwittingly bringing about hell on Earth.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can they produce useful results then? Do you know of any instance where even though the experiment was limited it led to breakthrough? Not asking to trap you into the induction problem (believing that something that happened in the past will happen in the future). I'm just curious.

A negative result is still a useful result. Before this experiment, no one knew if a high-stress environment would speed up visual perception. Now we have some evidence that it does not.

Only if paired with a follow-up hypothesis, otherwise you only mapped the outer boundaries of your domain, but gained no information about the domain of study itself.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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The way I lucid dream is to 'stay awake' through the process of falling asleep. There are a few tricks I use... but I don't recommend the experience (It can be... uncomfortable {there is a reason you don't remember the point you loose consciousness}). I don't know if these are universally applicable tricks either. But focusing on a point (visualizing it as actively as you can) seems to be important to staying awake t…

Feels like you found yourself some states similar to sleep paralysis.

I mean, yes... Everything I've read about sleep paralysis says it happens on waking (and is caused more often by sleeping on your back). Before you fall asleep the dark entity people sometimes feel/see isn't there (yet...).

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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I frequently have lucid dreams, in that I'm entirely aware of that fact that I'm dreaming while in the dream. What I find interesting, however, is that if I have a dream I forgot to study for my test, or I'm naked at school because I left my clothes somewhere else, or the school play starts tonight and I haven't memorized a single line... the fact that I know I'm dreaming doesn't help at all . Because the problem is…

Similar to my experience. I also find my control of my body is still somewhat linked to my real body. For example, one way of maintaining and strengthening the lucid experience is supposedly spinning around in place with your arms spread. When I do that, I find a dream sensation that feels a bit like my arms trying to move out from under my pillow or caught in the sheets. I then wake up shortly after that. Other time…

I hurt my hand once when I had a dream I was playing basketball and I woke up in the middle of throwing a 3-pointer - so I "jumped" and raised my hands in my bed and hit my hand against the wall.

> Mostly I can get a small hop glide for flying

I can do that very often in dreams, even when I don't realize I'm dreaming and the dream is about something completely different - somehow I often remember that it's a "superpower" I have. I have to run very fast and jump and then if I focus I can slow down the fall and eventually start to ascend. Feels very weird but also very "physical" - I have a lot of intertia and can't decide where I want to fly - just very slowly add some acceleration going up.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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I frequently have lucid dreams, in that I'm entirely aware of that fact that I'm dreaming while in the dream. What I find interesting, however, is that if I have a dream I forgot to study for my test, or I'm naked at school because I left my clothes somewhere else, or the school play starts tonight and I haven't memorized a single line... the fact that I know I'm dreaming doesn't help at all . Because the problem is…

I used to have lucid dreams regularly until I was 17, until I told a friend and never had a "real" one since. I am not sure if it is connected. I mostly used it to avoid nightmares as a child, unfortunately after a while, I got psychological nightmares instead. Waking up multiple times within a dream (There is no Limbo from Inception for me) with something really stressful having happened (dead body under the bed and police knocking on the door, it's just a dream there are no police, but the body is there, type stuff). I still have partially aware lucid-dreams occationally.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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Surprised to see that a lot of people experience lucid dreams. Are there any solid techniques to trigger them?

I haven't been into lucid dreaming for a while, but I used to use a technique called SSILD that worked great for me. Search for that name and you'll find discussions about it. You basically cycle between (with your eyes shut) "do I see anything abnormal?", "do I hear anything abnormal?" and "do I feel anything abnormal?" and just keep cycling between those, trying not to actually think about them too hard as you are falling asleep. If you're lucky, you'll end up transitioning into a dream straight from waking consciousness (wake induced lucid dream or WILD technique) or, failing that, you will fall asleep and have a much better chance or realizing you are dreaming (dream induced lucid dream or DILD), and failing that if you wake up in the middle of the night you can stay awake for a short while and then go back to sleep and have a good chance to fall into a dream you can become awake in (wake back to bed or WBTB) and if you do end up having a lucid dream and you wake up if you stay still you might just fall back into it (dream exit induced lucid dream or DEILD).

I had quite a few lucid dreams using this technique, but it has a drawback that you end up having "false awakenings" where you think you just woke up but are actually still dreaming. I've had 7 or 8 of those in a row before. If you have a good reality test (my go-to was holding my nose closed and seeing if breathing lightly would still work) then they are kind of nice because now you have just become lucid again and go do whatever you want.

The whole thing got to be too mentally exhausting for me and I was not feeling refreshed when I woke up so I stopped doing it. I occasionally try to start it up again, but I haven't had the gumption to continue it for very long.

As you can see, there is a huge rabbit hole you can fall down if you look into this stuff, and a lot of places on the internet where people discuss it or give pointers.

Also different people have better luck with different techniques. This one just happened to be my thing, I guess.

Re: Living in a Lucid Dream

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When I lucid dream, usually I also have the ability to "fly" and in time I learned one thing. As much as I love to use the "fly" ability to explore, I must not steer too far away from the point I am currently. Otherwise I can examine in quite vivid details the stuff around but if I leap too far it's like my mind says "sorry dude, you've reached end of simulation area, here's where you wake up".

I learned to look closely at something nearby for a short while before looking around and doing things, this seems to give the simulation more time to load. Maybe because I was new to it.
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