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A WFH 'culture war' has broken out across Europe

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Re: A WFH 'culture war' has broken out across Europe

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It's probably time for HN mods to start nuking these WFH threads.

Gets a bit hectic to be sure, but I'd rather read a contentious topic here than pretty much anywhere else

...That said - whilst it's a legitimate hot topic for our industry, I'd still trade it all in for more of those classic and insightful threads on obscure algorithms. (The ones seemingly populated entirely with folk who figuratively - or sometimes literally - wrote the book)

Re: A WFH 'culture war' has broken out across Europe

#52
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I WFH and my reasons to have ZERO reasons to go to an office are: - being able to live in a nice natural place, with a good climate and so on, not in a dense city; - being able to avoid wasting energy and health to commute, getting myself uselessly busy in such activities; - having a larger market, at least a nationwide one, with more potential competition but also more offers; - being able to evolve. Something I can…

Hard to be sure of course, but from (my perception of) tone I get the impression you've read my comment as somehow opposing the concept of remote work. Wasn't where I was coming from at all. My personal opinions on the matter are skewed as I have worked remotely (home, overseas, or while on the move) for more of my career than not. But that's still personal preference and I'm not going to pretend my opinion is some o…

An ancient Italian proverb state "there is no medal without a backside", or anything have good and bad aspects, however "collectivism vs individualism" it's IMVHO a way to misled, society are groups of individuals who share something, the point might be the ratio between cooperation and competition witch is not the same than collectivism vs individualism because happen at various different levels: two restaurants might compete to earn more customers but also cooperate for or against a law, some changes in the surroundings and so on. There is not much "collectivism vs individualism" in that.

Having "the quid" who makes humans doing something even if they dislike it is a classical need of those who rule others, because there are regularly situations where is needed and totally "free" people, specially those who understand less what they are doing and why, might decide not to do something suddenly. The geographical vinculum, the regular physical proximity might help form such "quid", sentiment that push humans to act together, but in a modern world such need is just a sign of incompetent management who fail to "make a team" without certain helpers. Workers are not soldiers and daily work is not a war, any company need a certain environment and slack to compensate various situations without needing such techniques. Companies who operate without that have a bad future and if they perform well now it's just a temporary thing. A society who perform like that is a society doomed to fail quickly anyway. In the end it's not different than those who prefer the office because at home they have unpleasant situations, it's a kind of patch to retard a bit the outcome, not a solution.

Re: A WFH 'culture war' has broken out across Europe

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post #32

No wonder uk economy is in shambles. France actually is one place in Europe where things still work.

Blame Brexit, not WFH

British work culture apart from some startups is complete apathy, slow service.

What we in the US do in a day, takes them about 2 weeks to do. Such is the wild difference.

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