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Psychology as well is built on a house of cards.
I have a PhD in physics and even physics itself is in a poor state, yet I totally get why all the other sciences envy physics: they're even worse
Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
#22I’m surprised by how tenuous the link is between the cave find and the archival find. Is the bar really that low for claims in archaeological papers or am I missing something? It’s a compelling story, but surely Occam’s razor would conclude that poking sticks into dead animals and fire pits is just what people have done for thousands of years? Where’s the evidence that there was chanting and a healing ceremony? Edit:…
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Wait you are telling me they were not for some religious rites? Or had some religious significance? Isn't that the usual reasoning for nearly everything found ever...
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
#23I’m surprised by how tenuous the link is between the cave find and the archival find. Is the bar really that low for claims in archaeological papers or am I missing something? It’s a compelling story, but surely Occam’s razor would conclude that poking sticks into dead animals and fire pits is just what people have done for thousands of years? Where’s the evidence that there was chanting and a healing ceremony? Edit:…
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Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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That was a cultural ritual, not scientific research. What scientific basis is there for Christmas or Thanksgiving?
Christmas, well winter solstice. Day or two off, but the timing works too well. Of course it was co-opted by christians. But celebrating shortest and longest day of the year are not bad picks. Specially when there isn't that much work at those times.
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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Psychology as well is built on a house of cards.
I have a PhD in physics and even physics itself is in a poor state, yet I totally get why all the other sciences envy physics: they're even worse
This is explained by complexity. The more components involved in a field, the less feasible the scientific method is. (E.g. math > physics > chemistry > materials science > cell biology > human biology > psychology > sociology)
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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It's a healing ritual as per the article, it either works more than random chance or it doesn't
Now now we aren’t allowed to assert that our culture is better or worse than any other, that is an inviolable cardinal sin for our pristine progressive rationalist minds. We have all of modern pharmacology and they have tiny sticks poked into burning animals in the fireplace. Different healing rituals for different folks.
They more or less survived 12000 years healing themselves like that. Let's check back in 12000 years of what medicine that actually works leads to.
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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Likely suppressed by Colonialists.
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
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It's a healing ritual as per the article, it either works more than random chance or it doesn't
I've seen an estimate that it was only about 1920 that Western medical intervention had a positive effect on average. In other words, you would generally end up worse off by visiting the doctor before then. And yet medical treatment clearly carried on as a continuous tradition throughout all of history.
Besides being dirty I imagine how people thought of “healthcare” was very different. In that most people didn’t see a doctor until things were bad so they’re naturally worse afterwards. “Preventative medicine” is a recent idea.
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
#29I’m surprised by how tenuous the link is between the cave find and the archival find. Is the bar really that low for claims in archaeological papers or am I missing something? It’s a compelling story, but surely Occam’s razor would conclude that poking sticks into dead animals and fire pits is just what people have done for thousands of years? Where’s the evidence that there was chanting and a healing ceremony? Edit:…
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I know we're supposed to ascribe the most benevolent motive to a comment.
So the above is both rather absurd and also rather patronising.
Re: Aboriginal ritual passed down over 12,000 years, cave find shows
#30I’m surprised by how tenuous the link is between the cave find and the archival find. Is the bar really that low for claims in archaeological papers or am I missing something? It’s a compelling story, but surely Occam’s razor would conclude that poking sticks into dead animals and fire pits is just what people have done for thousands of years? Where’s the evidence that there was chanting and a healing ceremony? Edit:…
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