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Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

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Nice work. I wonder if there may be a better application for the Vectara capabilities than search? Algolia has already done the search thing, can the Vectara search be 10x better? What I do find missing from HN is the ability for me to see things that may be of interest to me, but that I may have missed. I like how I get everything in the main feed which is pure popularity, but I don't have the time to go through all…

Unclear that the HN feed is pure popularity. There's got to be something else to it [1], otherwise it would look like all the medium-like crap you'll find elsewhere.

[1] my hunch is that some human expert curation is involved.

Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

#45

Nice work. I wonder if there may be a better application for the Vectara capabilities than search? Algolia has already done the search thing, can the Vectara search be 10x better? What I do find missing from HN is the ability for me to see things that may be of interest to me, but that I may have missed. I like how I get everything in the main feed which is pure popularity, but I don't have the time to go through all…

I've been wondering if segmentation might be the way to go. Have the chatbot look at all the items, cluster them into a few buckets of its choosing, then throw each new item into the most appropriate bucket.

(I've been thinking about this not just in terms of HN, but treating all my RSS feeds as one undifferentiated stream and just having a chatbot sort incoming items into whatever bucket it deems most appropriate).

What's stopping me is that it might work, and I doubt making the internet even stickier is good for me long term.

Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

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Like some other comments here I find HN search useful and powerful and am a little unsure what the added value is here. Possibly/probably it's for people that search in a different way to me.

One of the most frequent searches I do is to look for a specific comment that I know a user made recently. For example, I might want to look for my own comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40801389 (sorry, this is a slightly political one but I just picked it randomly for test purposes).

Searching Vectara for "n4r9 NHS" produces no results: https://hackernews.demo.vectara.com/?query=n4r9+NHS&filter=

HN's own search however produces the goods in the top result: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

[ EDIT except for this very post :p ]

Maybe 6 days ago is outside the dataset that this is based on?

Some other thoughts/suggestions:

- Ability to click through to the comment itself? At the moment it looks like the link goes just to the main comments page and then I have to find the relevant comment on the page.

- Filter comments vs posts?

- Order by datetime?

- Filter within a date range?

Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

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I searched for "Supabase" and none of top the results in your demo contained an actual post about supabase. Following the example queries I then tried "What is supabase?" and the results were equally irrelevant.

My personal opinion is that I'll keep using the HN search for the foreseeable time.

Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

#48

Nice work. I wonder if there may be a better application for the Vectara capabilities than search? Algolia has already done the search thing, can the Vectara search be 10x better? What I do find missing from HN is the ability for me to see things that may be of interest to me, but that I may have missed. I like how I get everything in the main feed which is pure popularity, but I don't have the time to go through all…

This may be a good use case for RSS. Feed readers can filter posts by keyword so you can take the unofficial RSS feed [1] and filter it down by your interests.

I posted an RSS reader that can do this recently [2] and I'm actively hacking on another [3]. But there's many RSS tools that can do this.

[1] https://hnrss.github.io/

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40839262

[3] https://github.com/ralexander-phi/feed2pages-action

Re: Show HN: I made a search engine for Hacker News

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post #45

Nice work. I wonder if there may be a better application for the Vectara capabilities than search? Algolia has already done the search thing, can the Vectara search be 10x better? What I do find missing from HN is the ability for me to see things that may be of interest to me, but that I may have missed. I like how I get everything in the main feed which is pure popularity, but I don't have the time to go through all…

I've been wondering if segmentation might be the way to go. Have the chatbot look at all the items, cluster them into a few buckets of its choosing, then throw each new item into the most appropriate bucket. (I've been thinking about this not just in terms of HN, but treating all my RSS feeds as one undifferentiated stream and just having a chatbot sort incoming items into whatever bucket it deems most appropriate).…

I've been thinking about that at length recently. RSS feeds often don't have category elements specified and there isn't a widely used taxonomy of category names. I'd prefer not to use AI to solve the problem, although encouraging the use of RSS categories will be slow work.

https://alexsci.com/blog/rss-categories/

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